Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/María Elena Chávez Caldera


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. There is no sourced content (WP:V) that could be merged, and the person with the changing signature makes no policy-based argument for keeping the article.  Sandstein  05:21, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

María Elena Chávez Caldera

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Sad but WP:NOT, the few google news hits are either passing mentions, or happened around the time of her murder. No lasting notability. Delete Secret account 13:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 00:37, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep...kinda protocol, since it's an article that I started, but still....Hit me with your best shot ,sup>hablame! 12:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Merge into Female homicides in Ciudad Juárez. Although notability is not temporary, and I'm satisfied she meets WP:GNG, this is a case of WP:BIO1E. Sadly, nothing about her particular murder is noteworthy enough to set it apart from the other Ciudad Juárez murders. Ivanvector (talk) 01:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTMEMORIAL possibly merge into a serial killing (this particular serial killer's serial killings) article. 70.29.211.138 (talk) 06:09, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As I said b4.....so I must again vote for keep. I mean would Barack vote for John??...certainly not! Jackass one and half Y que te importa?! 10:43, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This is not an election. Do you have an argument in favour of keeping the article based on Wikipedia guidelines? For example, in this case I think a lot of editors would be satisfied if you could demonstrate that she met the general notability guideline before she was murdered. You might also explain why har specific murder is more notable than the other murders in the series, thus not failing based on WP's policy about biographies of people notable for only one event. As it is, you are effectively arguing that the article should be kept solely because you created it, which is in fact specifically against policy. I commend the work you've done on the article and think that the content should be kept, but for the reasons I pointed out above I don't think it should be a separate article, so I suggest merging. Ivanvector (talk) 13:24, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It's also confusing that you changed your signature in between comments. Ivanvector (talk) 13:24, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I always vote for the articles I created to be kept because I like my work to be enjoyed for posteriority. I know it's not an election, I just used the Barack and John example as a comparison, kinda like saying "it's expected for me to vote to keep it" kinda thing.


 * About the signature, I always do that. I never sign the same way. I just want to make other readers and contributors laugh a bit and also remember me for my unconventionality, wild ways, wackiness and sense of humor. :)
 * I assume you're probably not intending this, but when you change your signature every time you make a comment, you can make it look like you're trying to stack the discussion in your favour. Actually stacking the discussion is very against policy (see WP:SOCK for one). I applaud your creativity, but please be careful. Ivanvector (talk) 13:32, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You hit it on the button when you said I wasn't intending that. I guess I can revert to my old signature in which I wrote it like: Antonio ("Whatever")Martin...I really appreciate your applauding me, Ivan. Rare when people here praise others! Thanks and God bless you! Antonio the Fourth Jonas Brother Martin Aha? 07:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


 * About the other things you said, what can I say but that you're right about most of it? Megan Please Be Mine!!! Que de Que??? 10:51, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.