Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/María Susana Flores Gámez


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:26, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

María Susana Flores Gámez

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Contested PROD; textbook WP:BLP1E in my opinion, plus WP:NOT. § FreeRangeFrog 02:03, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Worldwide press coverage. Maybe rename to Murder of ... NickSt (talk) 02:08, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Come to think of it yes, a rename would be good here. But I'm not entirely sure there is significant world-wide coverage of this. § FreeRangeFrog 02:43, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've seen any source that indicates her killing was a murder, so I don't think renaming the article to "Murder of . . ." would make sense. Calathan (talk) 18:32, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - currently, the article only has American sources; however, I've found which, being British, shows a wider spread than just the neighbouring countries. I'm sure there are foreign language sources (beyond Mexican ones), but I don't speak the languages. Lukeno94 (talk) 10:22, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment So I waited for a bit to see what kind of arguments would be made for this and I guess I wasn't disappointed :) Here's the problem: Move it to something like Murder of María Susana Flores Gámez and we have WP:NOT, plus as someone already pointed out, it's not a murder. I'm seeing hints in some of the articles that she probably was involved with one of the cartels, so that also complicates things. So 'Death of X'? Still WP:NOT, because it wouldn't qualify as a major event anyway. Let's face it, tens of thousands of people have died in Mexico in the last few years - this makes the news because the girl was attractive. So what then? Do we leave it as a bio? It's still a textbox case of WP:BLP1E. Those are the reasons I brought this to AfD, so please consider them when casting !votes. § FreeRangeFrog 19:30, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete clear obvious WP:RECENT violation. She wasn't notable before her death, and then she was only in the news because she was a beauty queen that was shot and killed because she was with the cartel and starting shooting at police. Other than her being a "beauty queen" her death wasn't notable at all. Secret account 00:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't think it deserves an article. It got a couple of days of coverage in Mexico because she was a beauty queen that happened to be with a cartel. Most sources talk about the same thing, so it won't be able to stand on its own and will have to remain a stub forever. There have been a few other beauty queens that have been linked to the cartels, so maybe a separate article about the "narco-culture" behind that would be interesting. If the article manages to stay, let me know so I translate the Spanish-language sources to English ... I'll probably may be able to get a few paragraphs on the incident/investigation. That's pretty much it. ComputerJA (talk) 06:02, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete she is not notable. I think it would be good to mention her in the Sinaloa article's Notable natives and residents section. --Vic49 (talk)  23:42, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
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