Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marathon RED


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was redirect to Marathon Total Conversions, since that's where someone has decided to concentrate coverage of all Marathon total conversions. Kimchi.sg 02:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Marathon RED
Delete. Apparently this article is about a modification of a customizable game that some dude created. There's no intimation of how many units of this were sold or if indeed any ever was. Nothing to merge.- CrazyRussian talk/email 18:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. I also suggest AfD'ing the other articles mentioned in the template at the bottom of the page, or merging them into one article. -- Koffieyahoo 02:28, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Why delete it? There are other mods listed under Marathon, will you delete them all as well? How about we delete all stubs as well, as they lack data. Zanduar 00:59, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge all articles into a new article (possibly titled Marathon Total Conversions). These articles are short and really can't be expanded. However, the subject seems to be important enough to merit a single article. Besides, it makes it alot easier for the reader to find everything on one page. Yank  sox  02:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 *  AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.  Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 15:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep This is a stub, and it can be expanded, but that is besides the point, many notable subjects have only one sentence written on them in Wikipedia. Does that mean we delete all stubs?  Marathon seems to have several mods, so I see nothing wrong with having an article on another one of it's mods. --HResearcher 09:06, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge per sox. Most of these would qualify as non-notable in my opinion; their sites would surely fail WP:WEB. However, on the whole, modifications of a game engine are a notable thing. I don't think they're necessarily worth their own article instead of being part of the article on the game, but that's a compromise I'm willing to make. --FreelanceWizard 09:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - Seems there's some confusion as to what this is. RED, along with the rest of the mods in the template, are total conversions for Marathon, a very old but noteworthy first-person shooter (noteworthy as probably the best-known commercial Mac-only game ever, as well as the first big success of Bungie). I'm not sure how encyclopedic these are, though. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 09:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. RandyWang ( raves/review me! ) 13:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable mod--Peephole 14:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)--
 * Keep This was one of the most popular Marathon total conversions around. It's not OCunter-Strike Popular, btu has been played by tens of thousands of people.  There have been 2500 downloads on  alone, which was established well after the release of Red and is hardly the only source. We really need a WP:GAME to make this sort of thing easier. Ace of Sevens 17:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge all per Yanksox. Total conversions can be notable, but any given one is not as notable as a full game with the same playerbase.  There's no need to have a bunch of stub articles when a longer compilation article would work just as well.  Powers 21:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WeirdoYYY. Powers 13:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete I created the page at I put them all there so no need for dupes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WeirdoYYY (talk • contribs).
 * Keep: Given it is hosted on the official site I don't see how it fails notability. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 11:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It's hosted on bungie.org, a longstanding Bungie fansite, not the official site. bungie.com and bungie.net are the official sites. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 13:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.