Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marc Canter


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:53, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Marc Canter

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Makes no assertion of notability. The subject founded a company that was later merged to form Macromedia, then bought out by Adobe. Though the company might be considered mildly notable, the founders need their own secondary coverage in order for they themselves to be considered notable. The sources in this article are either written by the subject himself or insignificant (i.e. a newsgroup, short mention in a newspaper, or a small blog). This article lacks significant coverage by secondary sources independent of the subject, and thus should be deleted per GNG. Richard Yetalk 09:08, 4 July 2015 (UTC) Agreed, Richard must not remember the Internet prior to 2005. Brianmarx (talk) 05:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - confounding Macromedia is not "mildly notable". Artw (talk) 20:49, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - I agree with Artw. The inventor of desktop video is a pretty significant influence. Brought to us the technology behind Flash and ultimately YouTube. Scott Truesdell (talk) 18:51, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:01, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 18:07, 11 July 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95  Talk  14:48, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - This subject seems notable and my searches found results to confirm this here, here and here and passing mentions here. If not notable, I would've said to move to one of the companies but it seems he has independent notability. SwisterTwister   talk  17:29, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SNOW. Bearian (talk) 22:48, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Blmurch (talk) 01:53, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Are you frickin' kiddin'??? - some WP:BEFORE would be useful here but regardless, this article has some problems with tone and promotion and editing by naive editors, but the notability of this giant of the Internet (figuratively and perhaps literally) is not in question. Major mentions in reliable sources bla bla bla. Grow up. - Wikidemon (talk) 05:26, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - Notable and significant in many distinct roles and companies, deserving of his own page. Brianmarx (talk) 05:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Marc is notable; the page content does need some cleanup though. I've cut most of the overly-attentive intro bio, plus softened a questionable claim about tribe.net. DanBri (talk) 10:01, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep I can understand how kids like Richard Ye who weren't around decades before the multimedia revolution begin, who didn't surf through the dot com bubble inflation and explosion, who take blogging and podcasting and desktop publishing for granted, and who never attended many of the multimedia and web publishing conferences in the bay area and around the world year after year, may not understand how well known and influential Marc Canter has always been, but they certainly should be able to read about it on Wikipedia. Xardox (talk) 10:20, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - davewiner Marc is a historic figure in the development of personal computer software and the Internet. He led the development of Macromind Director, which was the seminal product of what was then called the "multimedia industry." This, along with Hypercard, and Unix, became the foundation for the web. However, the article here does not reflect that influence. Someone is going to have to do some serious work to get this story right. Marc's accomplishments have very little if anything to do with the company he founded. He's a creative master, and his creative process led to a lot of what we use today on the web. Removing him from Wikipedia would be a big loss for Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davewiner (talk • contribs) 13:50, 24 July 2015 (UTC) — Davewiner (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Strong Keep although Marc has not been as active lately, he was a notable driver of multimedia and later internet technology. DickHardt (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep I can think of no more notable figure in the history of multimedia. Let's work to improve the article and its sourcing, keeping in mind that the most significant period of his influence/activity predates the web, so sourcing may take more work. Dig We Must! Raines (talk) 15:13, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong KeepThere was a moment when Marc Canter and digital multimedia were nearly synonymous. Without disrespect to his more recent work, it's important to keep his entry as a reminder of the days when a CD-ROM was absolutely the coolest thing someone could be working on (and that someone was probably using software Marc Canter helped pioneer).Akma (talk) 15:47, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Marc has been at the centre of several computer revolutions. Notable. --ESP (talk) 15:55, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Marc was very important in multimedia and publishing. This article needs a lot of work (Marc has been referenced in much more notable publications than the ones currently cited) but should be kept. Myelin (talk) 18:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Notable, important figure in software industries — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lyndaweinman (talk • contribs) 19:21, 24 July 2015 (UTC) — Lyndaweinman (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


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