Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marc Grocott


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The result was   delete as he clearly fails WP:ATHLETE. пﮟოьεԻ  5  7  18:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Marc Grocott

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Contested speedy. Footballer who is yet to play a game in a fully professional league, thus failing the established consensus on notability for footballers. Nuttah (talk) 09:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Premiership footballer, made BBC News etc.--EchetusXe (talk) 14:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep (probably speedy) per EchetusXe. Premiere League football player. --Oakshade (talk) 03:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. He's not a Premier League footballer yet. Currently he is a player just out of the academy who has not played a game in a fully professional league (WP:ATHLETE) or even for the Conference North team he has been sent out on loan to. He may one day make the grade (but that is crystal balling), but just as likely he could be one of the 50% who never play a game in a fully professional league. Nuttah (talk) 16:00, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  15:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Long-standing consensus is that footballers are not notable until they have made a first team appearance in a notable competition. Just being on the books of Stoke is insufficient. --Dweller (talk) 13:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:52, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. QuidProQuo23 02:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:ATHLETE --Angelo (talk) 07:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, and recreate if and when he makes his professional debut. Bettia   (rawr CRUSH!)  08:24, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails notability at WP:ATHLETE as he has never played in a fully-professional league/competition. --Jimbo[online] 08:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Has not played at the highest level, i.e. in a fully professional league, per WP:Athlete. Also lacking in the significant coverage in reliable, third-party publications per WP:N. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 08:38, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - doesn't satisfy requirements of WP:ATHLETE or WP:NOTE - ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - zero appearances shoots down any claim to notability --T-rex 13:37, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per nom. Hubschrauber729 (talk) 02:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - recreate if and when he meets criteria.-- Club Oranje Talk 11:08, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:N and per WP:SNOW. Undead Warrior (talk) 00:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 20:17, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


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