Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marc Kelly


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Evidently not notable enough for inclusion. —  Aitias  // discussion 20:56, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Marc Kelly

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Non-notable student activist. db and prod tags have been removed. Little Red Riding Hood  talk  19:03, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. There's some local interest, but the sources that are accessible are letters and blogs and school newspapers. It doesn't seem to be an article worthy of a global encyclopedia. =Axlq 20:05, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Rebuttal to: "There's some local interest, but the sources that are accessible are letters and blogs and school newspapers."
 * A. There is: (i) Coverage in the Ottawa Sun, and (ii) an interview with James Hendricks on Roger's Talk Ottawa, viewable nationally via Rogers Cable.
 * B. There are: (i) publications in reputable refereed science journals, and (ii) national and international science conferences.
 * (UofOVoice (talk) 21:29, 25 December 2008 (UTC)) — UofVoice (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic..
 * That's hardly a rebuttal. Citing the Ottawa Sun confirms my claim of only local interest, and I don't see that the journal articles have any direct relation to what the article claims makes Mr. Kelly notable. =Axlq 16:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Did not make enough noise. Fails WP:BIO. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 21:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Does not meet WP:BIO and WP:BIO1E for guidelines concerning Notable people and people notable for only one event. Also, may be a Conflict of Interest. --Non-dropframe (talk) 21:32, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Rebuttal to: "Does not meet WP:BIO and WP:BIO1E for guidelines concerning [...] people notable for only one event."
 * Kelly is not notable for "one event", but rather Kelly is notable for multiple events including: (1) Deregistration (2) Conflict with President (3) Interference of nomination (4) Arrest and banishment (5) Presentation at Canadian Undergraduate Physics Conference 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by UofOVoice (talk • contribs) 21:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)  — UofVoice (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Weak keep: While there is limited coverage, there is enough presented above to suggest Kelly is notable for more than one event. --99.246.141.250 (talk) 22:52, 25 December 2008 (UTC) — 99.246.141.250 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete per nom. He fails WP:BIO, and is barely of local attention.  TJ   Spyke   22:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * keep: There's a recording of Allan Rock yelling at him on his blog, Allan Rock is a big time Canadian politician, and current president of the University of Ottawa. That's pretty huge. Also, not that it's made big news or anything, but his Thesis proposal, and critique of Physics academia is pretty insightful, and looks like it will continue raising a stir in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.46.151.3 (talk) 23:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: Kelly has published sufficient works and appears central to a couple of notable events (lawsuit;deregistration over controversial thesis;arrest).--Afonseca (talk) 00:39, 26 December 2008 (UTC) — Afonseca (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Kelly's publications don't seem to be what confers notability on him, according to th earticle. Millions of people are involved in lawsuits; by itself that doesn't confer notability either, and the lawsuit isn't mentioned in sources outside the local area, as far as I can tell. The same goes for deregistration and arrest; why is that notable to the rest of the world? =Axlq 21:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability within the university only--and considering what the notability is for, there are serious BLP problems with this article. (Even if he wants the article, for we should not take advantage.) The student scientific investigations would not not worthy of mention even if his behavior had attracted wider interest. Not everyone who a politician yells at is notable. And of course what might "raise a stir in the future'' is not yet notable. DGG (talk) 01:28, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep: Kelly is a part of a North American movement which is growing in importance and public interest. He is notable for many actions not limited to the University of Ottawa campus including his talk on the sociology of physics given at the Canadian Physics Undergraduate Conference. His case was also widely discussed following a mass email which was sent to over 40 000 people linking to a recording of University of Ottawa President Allan Rock shouting at him. Jenflick.o Dec. 26, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenflick.o (talk • contribs) 18:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)  — Jenflick.o (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete. Local notability only. Looks a lot like a vanity page. NoVomit (talk) 00:33, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. This article should be kept; it is probable that notability can be achieved with further research.--66.16.249.106 (talk) 12:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC) — 66.16.249.106 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep. I'm a University of Ottawa student. The information contained in the media coverage that Kelly has received (in University of Ottawa student-newspapers and the 'Ottawa Sun') is relevant to university students across Canada and around the world.  Kelly's actions are an important part of the Canadian student movement (e.g. see Wikipedia article about the Canadian Federation of Students) SeosamhH (talk) 05:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * — SeosamhH (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Little Red Riding Hood  talk  20:38, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - There is no coverage to establish notability. Note that the Ottawa Sun article is not about Marc Kelly.  In fact, there is no mention of Marc Kelly at all.  The link is a scan of the article with the name "Denis Raincourt" struck through and Marc Kelly added in its place.  It may very well be the newspaper misidentified the individual in the caption.  But even if it were printed that way by the paper, it is an incidnetal mention.  With no other coverage, interst is localised to within the university. -- Whpq (talk) 13:14, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Notability seems to be limited to the University of Ottawa area based on sources. Morbidthoughts (talk) 20:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


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