Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marc Weidenbaum


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The result was   Keep. Nomination stems from an apparent misunderstanding of the notability guideline precendence. WP:N trumps all others.  Jerry  delusional ¤ kangaroo 03:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Marc Weidenbaum

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Unnotable editor at Viz Media. Fails WP:BIO. Declined speedy. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 14:24, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.  -- --  Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 14:34, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Question. Admittedly there's only two citations at the moment, but in what way does industry reportage about him -- including an interview with him about the job at hand -- not indicate notability? —Quasirandom (talk) 14:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Only two "reports" and almost exclusively its just him talking up Viz rather than interviews about him as a person. Par for the course for any company higher up, to be the main voice in interviews, but that alone doesn't make them notable. As an editor, he has the additional criteria at WP:CREATIVE. Weidenbaum is not "regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by his peers or successors" (outside of standard company reports, which is not the same thing). He is not known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique" nor has he "created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." Nor has his "work" "won significant critical attention" and he hasn't won editing awards etc. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 15:09, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, WP:CREATIVE does seem to apply (though that's not an additional requirement -- a subject can either fulfill the general requirements of WP:BIO or one of the more detailed ways of fulfilling them such as WP:CREATIVE, WP:ENTERTAINER, and so on). And going by that, you are right, the subject does not seem to pass that requirement. Delete or possibly redirect to Viz Media, the employer from which his asserted notability derives. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:59, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:10, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete I don't see signs this individual meets the guidelines for inclusion. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:15, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Keep – I take it no one took the time to do a Google News search? I just happen to find these .  In my opinion, enough to establish notability.  Rewrite of the article yes – deletion no.  Thanks. ShoesssS Talk 16:05, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we did, hence the discussion above. Half those results appear to possibly be a different person, and the rest are trivial mentions noting he is the editor of some of Viz's magazines; again, does not meet the requirements of neither Bio nor Entertainer. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 16:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I do not want to sound sarcastic but are we looking at the same search results as I provided? I see a lot more than half that mention the individual.  And yes, some are just mentions but others would not be considered trivial.  Thanks. ShoesssS Talk 16:21, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, see the actual criteria. He doesn't meet them. He's an editor and the general mouth-piece for Viz at the moment. He is mentioned in these roles. And? He has been an editor a long time, but that doesn't make him notable. He is certainly no Yumi Hoashi, his predecessor, who was once "one of the ten most powerful people in the U.S. manga business." Can you find such accolades for Weidenbaum or anything about the man himself not just him promoting Viz or doing press releases? -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 16:23, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep The fact that he has significant coverage in multiple third party source means he is notable. If a subject meets the General notability guidelines, they are notable, whether they are a company, person, etc.  WP:BIO, WP:ATHLETE, WP:CREATIVE are additional criteria, that if a subject does not seem to meet WP:N they still merit inclusion if they meet the more refined, specific criteria.  Because a person is, say, a high school athlete (which does not fulfill WP:ATHLETE) does NOT mean that they cannot be included even if they have significant coverage in reliable, third party sources.  The specific notability requirements are ADDITIONAL requirements, they do not replace the general notability guidelines.  Theseeker4 (talk) 16:28, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


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