Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marc Y. Chenevert


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:54, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Marc Y. Chenevert

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Contested PROD : This article has a number of issues, some can be fixed by editors more familiar with the area than I; However the one area that can't be fixed is the subjects lack of notability, the article is almost completely sourced to the subject, either to his self-published book or to his own website. I have failed to find any online reliable sources that cover the subject at all (there is blog post at Mountain Express) Google and Bing searches for "Chenevert artist" both come up blank for coverage. In the internet age it is inconceivable that a notable artist would have zero coverage. Clearly fails both WP:ARTIST and WP:AUTHOR and also WP:GNG.  LGA talk  edits   11:00, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete He donated his work to the National Museum of Commercial Aviation and this counts under WP:ARTIST #4D "represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums". The problem is the word "several" as the National museum is just one. However the source also says "All of Marc’s aviation artwork is included in this gift to the Museum with the exception of his Braniff International Airways drawings (which he plans to donate to a group in Dallas, Texas). This group is currently working towards a Braniff International Museum that will be exclusive to historical Braniff memorabilia, art and artifacts, including artworks by the renowned Alexander Calder as well as those of Marc Y. Chenevert." So if you count this second non-existent museum it would be "several". Another problem is the complete lack of sourcing for WP:GNG, nobody has written about Chenevert anywhere (in reliable secondary sources). My guess is this artist will become better known now that donated artwork where it can be exhibited and written about, but it will take some time to see if that happens, so WP:TOOSOON. --
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 03:42, 28 September 2013 (UTC)



The National Museum of Commercial Aviation is actually more than one museum. There is the Commercial Aviation Museum, the Delta Airlines Museum and Heritage Center at NMCA and the Commercial Aircraft Museum. The Braniff Commons Museum and Library exists and has for over a year and currently houses the Braniff Flying Colors Collection. The museum will, in late 2014, move into a new facility. The statements above in the DELETE section have been pulled from a press release that was written on Mr. Chenevert's behalf by a former Braniff employee who was assisting with the media coverage on the Chenevert Collection donations and was not completely correct in it's statements about the Braniff Commons Museum and Library. At no time does the Chenevert Wiki article reference or use the Chenevert Press Release as a part of its reliable sources as is implied here.

Mountain XPres Newspaper in North Carolina has written about Mr. Chenevert's donation, however, one Wiki user has removed the citation from the Chenevert stating that it is a blog that references the Chenevert website. Mountain Xpress is a valid newspaper of the Asheville, NC area and a credible reference. There are additional Chenevert citations from AIR FORCE TIMES newspaper that have been accessed but have not been received from the AFT Archive. Once they are received then they will be added.Mmb777e (talk) 01:24, 4 October 2013 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:56, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. A nice enough fellow but there isn't enough here to meet notability. - The Bushranger One ping only 14:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, probably very good at what he does, but the lack of independent sources means that he can't possibly meet WP:N. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:45, 17 October 2013 (UTC).
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