Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcas O'Murchú


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep. howcheng  [ t &#149; c &#149; w &#149;  e  ] 16:56, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Marcas O'Murchú
Non-notability under Notability (music) - plus probable WP:POINT by poster after the John Fullerton afd (attempt to hype the notability of teachers at a Derry school). Tearlach 01:13, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable and a clear case of WP:POINT. Keep, sources have been added to article. Demiurge 10:23, 15 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I feel Marcas meets at least three Musical Notability guidelines:
 * Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show. He has performed on TG4, a national station in Ireland, and has also introduced a number of programmes.
 * Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city. The Belfast Telegraph describe him as one of the "country's finest musicians".
 * Has been the subject of a half hour or hour broadcast on a national radio network. “Turas” on RTE-Raidio na Gaeltachta is an hour long radio programme of Irish music and conversation between 3-4pm each Friday afternoon from June 17, running until September, presented by well-known flute player, Marcas O Murchu. - []--Johnfullerton 11:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Marcas clearly fulfills these three guidelines, of which he only needs to fulfil one. I don't understand why the deletion box has been put back in place.--159.134.206.12 14:55, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment OK, add this information to the original article (and cite it properly in accordance with WP:CITE) and I will withdraw my deletion vote. (If you had included this evidence in the article in the first place in accordance with Wikipedia policy, the article would likely have never been listed for deletion!) Demiurge 15:37, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment Exactly. I know we're not supposed to bite the newbies, but this cycle is getting exceedingly boring. #1 Someone posts an unsourced article with exaggerated claims of notability. #2 It's disputed on those grounds. #3 Lots of vitriol ensues. #4 After sufficient arm-twisting they finally cough up references supporting far more modest claims that turn out nevertheless to be sufficiently notable to keep the article. Any problem with going straight to #4? Tearlach 03:15, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Question Does this mean that you will be withdrawing the nomination Tearlach?-- Cactus.man  &#9997;  10:14, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * This afd nomination was orphaned. Listing now. &mdash;Crypticbot (operator) 15:25, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - Expand and clean. --Irishpunktom\talk 15:35, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless reliable sources are cited in the article. Arguing in AfD is all very well, but does nothing to make the article any more keepworthy. Keep, thanks Capitalist. --Last Malthusian 09:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable musician within his genre and I have cited reliable sources in the article. Capitalistroadster 17:29, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems to be notable enough, the article is sourced and he meets the necessary criteria at WP:MUSIC. -- Cactus.man  &#9997;  17:49, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Very very weak keep. A folk musician whi has apparently released at least one CD, who was once mentioned on the BBC's Ireland site but is not there now, and is admired by some other folkies.  550 Google hits is extremely low for a contemporary figure in music.  But it is folk music, which is notoriously hard to verify on Google.  So in the end we must presume good faith on the part of the editor. - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 18:04, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Links reference evidence that this meets WP:Music. Durova 18:46, 15 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.