Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcello Bertinetti (fencer born 1952)


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. (non-admin closure) Cavarrone 11:33, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Marcello Bertinetti (fencer born 1952)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BLP. There is not enough coverage for this person in the article. Attempted to search for sources but did not come across any relevant. Normanhunter2 (talk) 13:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics,  and Italy.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  14:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sports biographies are subject to a heightened sourcing standard. See WP:SPORTBASIC prong 5: "Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources." This one-sentence stub does not meet the standard. Cbl62 (talk) 16:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * SPORTBASIC, prong 5 now met. No opinion on whether it's enough for GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 16:11, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep I think the profile on Olympedia gives the WP:SIGCOV required. He was Italian champion and won a bronze medal at the 1973 Summer Universiade, see results. Broc (talk) 20:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Here coverage of him on the national press La Stampa about becoming Italian épée champion. Some passing coverage:
 * Sources from 1976 are hard to find, that doesn't mean they don't exist... Broc (talk) 21:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Normanhunter2 did you look in Italian-language sources? Broc (talk) 21:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The Olympia article is a dead link, it doesn't lead anywhere. I believe this article doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV either. Sourcing of BLPs have to be precise. The ones that Broc added seem to have more coverage of it, but is it significant enough to have the article stay on Wikipeida? Normanhunter2 (talk) 22:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Could you please elaborate on how the La Stampa article does not show WP:SIGCOV? This is an article on national press, entirely dedicated to the subject who just won the national tournament of his sport, detailing his previous career achievements and his personal life. Broc (talk) 06:15, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * On the personal life section, it says he studied at a university, this is too broad, and it won't stand even with a reference without a specific pinpoint of what university the person studied at.
 * The newspaper link you've sent here is probably the only significance this person has on Wikipedia, nothing else. Normanhunter2 (talk) 18:17, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Can you explain what you mean by "it's too broad, it won't stand"? And how is the content of the page related to the notability of the subject? The article content does not determine notability, see WP:CONTN. Broc (talk) 21:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes WP:GNG with an in-depth profile in Olympedia and in La Stampa as demonstrated above. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Decent work by Broc. Geschichte (talk) 11:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment the page should be moved to Marcello Bertinetti (fencer, born 1952) per WP:NCPDAB. I would ask the closer to move the page, if it is kept. Broc (talk) 20:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


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