Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marco Aponte


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 23:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Marco Aponte

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Article created and maintained by a homonymous account. As an academic and assistant professor, subject does not pass WP:PROF, and as an actor WP:NACTOR is not met. Generally only passing mentions in sources, no significant coverage has been found, so WP:BASIC/WP:GNG is not met either. (Two related articles are being discussed at Articles for deletion/Carmen Moreno de Aponte (2nd nomination) and Articles for deletion/Actors of the World.) Sam Sailor 07:36, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor 07:37, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor 07:37, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Venezuela-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor 07:37, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor 07:37, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep This article has been active for almost ten years. It should not be deleted. As an academic, the subject published a book and has written dozens of articles on the current economic and political situation in Venezuela. He has also been interviewed in various prominent media outlets, including the BBC. As an actor, he has worked extensively in the theater. There are countless of reviews on the internet on his theater work. He was also an actor in Scorsese's movie Hugo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:400:52F7:31B5:B5A6:97FC:1B40 (talk) 17:40, 13 June 2018 (UTC)  — 2601:644:400:52F7:31B5:B5A6:97FC:1B40 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:03, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment: Disruptively attempting to circumvent this discussion by repeatedly removing the AfD template from the article will:
 * not work
 * not increase your chances of keeping the article.
 * Thanks ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:49, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - @[Sam Sailor|Sailor] Thank you very much for your suggestion to delete this page. I am the subject featured in it and do not want to have this page. I guess this is all my fault because I created it. However, that was ten years ago. I have tried unsuccessfully to delete the content in the past but the system brings it back, so I have been updating it as everyone who googles me (including students, audience members, reviewers, future employers) can see it. So please delete it as soon as possible. Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcoaponte (talk • contribs) 20:24, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete and Salt Subject isn't notable and we ought to prevent further problems by ensuring it can't be recreated. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 01:04, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Doesn't a BLP policy apply here? Since the subject does not want the article or hypothetically declares it isn't accurate, can it apply for speedy deletion? --Jamez42 (talk) 16:44, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE could come into play, but if the SPA IP "keep" votes are discounted, and they should, as they are not policy based, then there is little doubt about the outcome. Sam Sailor 18:06, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep This article should be kept regardless of how the subject feels about it. There is enough notability.67.164.93.195 (talk) 16:29, 14 June 2018 (UTC) — 67.164.93.195 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep immediately For example, he is noted in Hugo_(film) as an actor, people will search this actor's information or go tpo a media database or encyclopedia. If this is an encyclopedia of only very popular actors, it is ok to remove.  Note: there is an entry in IMDB too because that is regarded as information (ref: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4263854/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t20).  Here, we are truely destroying the knowledge of wikipedia.  And, I think the article should be improved.  Thanks.  Shevonsilva (talk) 18:09, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * And as an extra. Subject still seems to fail WP:NACTOR. --Jamez42 (talk) 18:14, 14 June 2018 (UTC)


 * You somehow managed to duplicate the SPA IP "keep" vote in Special:Diff/845868732/845869762, I have removed it for you. Aponte is not noted for his small role in Hugo. May I suggest you start to source the article to WP:BASIC? You can list your findings here. Thanks, Sam Sailor 18:23, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Dear Wikipedia editors, first of all I would like to thank you for the time that you have spent in analyzing and commenting about this page as well as the one that I created about my late mother. I am very impressed by your commitment to the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation in general and this site in particular. As you know, I have requested for my page to be removed from the site. Although this is a page that I created myself, I did it over ten years ago. Things have changed and unfortunately online presence has become more of a burden for many of us. Without getting into too much detail about my work, I can confirm that I am indeed an actor and an academic. However, I do not consider myself notable in either field. I have been in many plays and films throughout the years (including Hugo, not as an extra by the way), but my acting work is more of a passion rather than a profession. In terms of my academic work, I am a university professor just like any other. My academic work could be interesting to other professors in the field but certainly not to the general public. Although I write articles in the press about Venezuela, my home country, this is more of an analyst function. I do not believe writing press articles and speaking to the media sometimes qualifies as notorious. Thus, I would appreciate if you could please support for this page to be removed. I saw that there have been some "keep" arguments in this page. I appreciate the support but I really would prefer for the page to be deleted. In terms of the page I created for my late mother, I feel that one should be kept. Unlike me, my mother was definitely notable in Venezuelan governments in the 60s and 70s. As per advice by one of you, I will collect more references on her work (hard copies) to improve the page. Thanks again and good luck to all of you in your editing and other career interests. Marcoaponte (talk) 19:43, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per OP. Also, the article subject summed it up very well why they're not notable by Wikipedia notability guidelines. byteflush Talk 00:01, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - I do not see that any legitimate reason for deletion has been presented. The article is reasonably well sourced, and the subject passes notability requirements.  The desire of the subject to have the article deleted is not a generally accepted reason for deletion.  If the subject has concerns about any particular part of the article, they can make note of that on the article's talk page, and editors can try to alleviate those concerns, but if the article is not defamatory, and the subject just doesn't want to have a Wikipedia article, that's not a policy-based reason for deletion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:12, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: The legitimate reason for deletion is per policy, WP:DEL8, as subject fails to meet the notability guidelines mentioned in the nomination. Feel free to post the sources you think qualify as independent, reliable and with significant coverage. I don't see them. Sam Sailor 22:39, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Then we differ, because in my estimation he satisfies notability guidelines. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:03, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.