Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marco Lo Russo (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. KTC (talk) 00:04, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Marco Lo Russo
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Purely promotional bio lacking evidence of notability. Some particularly awkward features are the mention that the subject has been awarded the "Nobel prize for best soundtrack" (!) and the "fake" sources removed here. (They are not sources, but simply links to the homepages of institutions Lo Russo is claimed to have attended.) The article was blp-prodded for having no sources a few hours after creation in August 2014. The creator then added a bunch of sources, none of them what I would call reliable nor secondary, and removed the prod. A sadly unattended AfD was filed by Piotrus a couple of days later, with no community input whatsoever, so it was closed as "no consensus". Of the four sources remaining today, three are from www.marcolorusso.com. Note also that the article has been deleted ten times on Italian wikipedia, for promotion, copyvio, recreation after being deleted per community discussion, etc. Ten times. When I saw that, I was tempted to speedy this English version per IAR, but, well, since it was once prodded, I suppose not. I hope it won't fall through the cracks for lack of interest again. Please discuss. Bishonen &#124; talk 19:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC). Bishonen &#124; talk 19:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems to me this needs further investigation, preferably by someone who reads Italian. On the face of it, the page has a lot of claims with no good quality references to prove them. But.. if all of these claims stand up, I think it is fair to describe the subject as being notable. The puzzling part is that some of these seem to me to be things that one would expect to find a mention of in a secondary source, so rather than having the page deleted multiple times on it.wiki, I wonder why the previous editors (both here and at it.wiki) did not work on improving at least some of the references for the claims.
 * I speak no Italian, however it does appear that versions of these achievements are recorded in various places (such as festival blubs) like here. I have no idea whether the artist has submitted this themselves or whether any checks are made, but it does make me wonder whether there are actually some decent references out there.
 * It seems to me that he has not written/edited the interviews himself and they appear genuine, hence they meet the criteria for sections 1 and 4 of WP:MUSICBIO. If refs could be found for the claims, the page also would appear to have grounds for sections 6, 9 and 10 of WP:MUSICBIO.
 * As it stands, it seems to me to be basically impossible to tell whether this is accurate information but poorly referenced or simply delusional self-promotion. JMWt (talk) 21:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Right, good points. Well, we have two Italian speakers below (Giano and Alex2006). Bishonen &#124; talk 10:25, 13 November 2015 (UTC).


 * Delete No doubt a talented musician, but then so am I and nobody wants to listen to me. Not notable. Giano    (talk) 22:28, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Per above. Moreover, I asked an admin on wiki:it about it, and he told me that the article on wiki:it was canceled 10 times and had 204 canceled edits. The deletion logs explain ad abundantiam why it was canceled, and I cannot imagine that users and admins in his homeland can be less smart than us in deciding about its notability. Here the article could survive until now only because it went unnoticed. moreover, the overall tone of the article sounds pretty delusional to me. This guy is also steadily trying to insert himself at wiki:it als "notable citizen" of Sermoneta, the tiny central Italian village where he apparently lives, and also there he is steadily reverted. Alex2006 (talk) 06:07, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Thank you, Bishonen, from shining light again on this vanity/promo entry. I stand by my original conclusion that this fails WP:MUSICBIO. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:23, 13 November 2015 (UTC)


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