Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcus Creasy


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The result was   delete. Secondary sources first, article second Spartaz Humbug! 12:27, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Marcus Creasy

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An article about a fictional character which neglects to mention which works of fiction include that character. AJ Quinnell appears to have created a fictional character called John Creasy, I found no references pertaining to this character. I suspect that it might be a hoax! Salimfadhley (talk) 23:39, 24 August 2014 (UTC)


 * KEEP I am the creator of this article. Creasy's first name is Marcus and it's in the adoption certificate of Juliet in "The Blue Ring", which is the 3rd novel in the series (names of the novels have been added to the article). The name of the character's first name in the MOVIE seems to have been "John", but his name in the NOVEL is Marcus. Since it's not mentioned in "Man on Fire", the screenwriter probably made up a name. The 2004 version of the movie took place in Mexico while the original novel took place in Italy, and there are many other differences, including the character's name as it so appears. It also leads us to realize we have inaccurate information on AJ Quinnell's article. What is the course of action on this?--WikipeidaEditoriall - 04:30, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Qestion, are there any reliable secondary sources that discuss this subject? In other words, since this is an article about a fictional character in a series of books, why do you think that this deserves it's own article rather than just a plot note in an article about the series? --Salimfadhley. For reference, here is an example of a better article about a fictional character's biography - note that the article (and related articles) make extensive use of secondary sources. (talk) 19:30, 26 August 2014 (UTC)


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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  14:14, 1 September 2014 (UTC)




 * ANSWER Hi! I've been busy for the last few days. These are popular works and I can certainly add secondary sources. What I have contributed so far is probably one third or one quarter of what I can eventually contribute in time. My first reason, amongst some others while I went on, is AJ Quinnell's writing style. He has obviously done thorough research in great details before writing these fantastic novels and though the characters, not only Creasy, are fictional, their background and personal traits are very closely intertwined with historical facts, yet he doesn't give it away in one place. He writes about them in different places and of course not in a chronological order, which makes the readers delve into the quest of creating a logical streamline of facts and information, but not an easy task at all! I believe this article will make this task a lot easier for many readers. --WikipeidaEditorial (talk) 19:02, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 10:02, 9 September 2014 (UTC)


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