Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcus Stanley (pianist)


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The result was delete. and salt Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:49, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Marcus Stanley (pianist)

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Not-very-notable musician, who is best known for having been attacked and shot; now uses that incident as the basis for a career as an inspirational speaker. A previous article about him was deleted in December 2014, see Articles for deletion/Marcus Stanley, so this is really a second AfD. The article was then recreated and speedy-deleted three times, whereupon the title Marcus Stanley was salted. I declined G4 speedy in this case because this version is not identical and there are some new references. I think he is probably still not notable, but I am bringing it to the community for decision. MelanieN (talk) 18:20, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt Still not notable, fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. Clear evasion of the salting, so this should be salted too. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:46, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - per above, and lack of coverage in news and other sources. It's also interesting how an IP and a second new editor reverted the deletion requests within hours after creation. GermanJoe (talk) 20:22, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt - Fails to establish notability. red dogsix (talk) 22:44, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Everymorning   talk  23:03, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:28, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - Establishes notability WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. Subject is linked to reliable source on CNN and Fox News. Vicke1988 (talk) 00:36, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 08:07, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment (voted above) - another copy of this article has been created at Marcus Stanley (musician) with, just minutes after the speedy tag was removed without explanation. But it's redirected now. Anyway, the topic clearly fails all criteria in WP:NMUSIC; the coverage in news almost entirely consists of interviews and self-published statements, repeated by the press - fails WP:GNG (and WP:NOTNEWS for that aspect). GermanJoe (talk) 11:29, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Can we also have that salted then as well? Joseph2302 (talk) 11:34, 28 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete and Salt - I really want to find a reason to keep this article as it is a great story, but unfortunately there is not enough to show WP:GNG. Also, I normally would not vote to salt an article; however, there is a big reason why I will for this. The article was previously created under Marcus Stanley and deleted after discussion. The fact that is was recreated under a disambiguation shows me that someone is trying to get around the system. As such, I would vote to salt both this and the original. Have them take it to Articles For Creation next time. --TTTommy111 (talk) 00:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


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