Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Margaret Louise Skourlis


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consider this a modified soft-delete per Acebulf's excellent commentary below. Daniel (talk) 01:30, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Margaret Louise Skourlis

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Slightly confusing one. I don't know who this person is, but she did not win the beauty pageant that her article claims. Most of the listed sources are either unreliable, not independent, or dead links. Unless I am being really stupid, this is possibly a hoax? Jdcooper (talk) 23:45, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Beauty pageants and Greece. Jdcooper (talk) 23:45, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 00:18, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete I spent a little over two hours investigating what exactly is happening here. It's incredibly confusing. From what I gather, there are some news articles internal to the Greek-American community that claim that she's won those contests, despite the winners being clearly identified as someone else. I don't view these sources as reliable. It's claimed from the same outlets publishing later that she won something called "Ms. Supermodel USA-Petite", which is not something I've been able to verify actually exists. I tried to wrap my head around how pagents works, and there's like 100 of them that are named almost exactly the same thing. I'm wondering if she hasn't won one of the not-glamorous ones, but that is named closely enough to the famous one that it was confused by the people making the news articles? This would make sense given that the external link to the (now defunct) pageant website isn't the same website as the famous competition that is Wikilinked.


 * The most credible source I found was TMZ, which mentions it in passing. This is not good omen for the credibility of the other sources.


 * The only things I've managed to ascertain with some certainty is that she didn't win the contest that is linked internally, and that no official records of her winning any beauty pageants can be found. I'm left to conclude that this person exists, but has never won a competition that would make her notable. There exists next to no reliable sources, no authoritative ones, and if we exclude community-interest stories, no actual description of the person that is sourced at all.


 * Given how late in the debate my incursion is, I'm likely to be the last to comment before someone gets to closing or redirecting for more discussion. I don't view this deletion as being controversial and as such, I would recommend treating this outcome as a successful PROD so that people don't lose even more time going down this rabbit hole. Acebulf  (talk &#124; contribs)  01:01, 29 December 2022 (UTC)


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