Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Margarita Martirena


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The result was Nomination withdrawn. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:28, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Margarita Martirena

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Margarita Martirena is a perfectly ordinary doctor, with no reason to regard her as notable as a doctor. The only possibility of notability is for her participation in athletics when she was younger.

This article has now been created three times, by the same editor. It has twice been speedily deleted under speedy deletion criterion A7 (no indication of significance). The present version of the article certainly does contain claims of significance: it states that she holds the Uruguayan record in the 4x100 meter relay and the 100 meter dash. However, it seems that in fact this refers to the fact that when she was a child she took records for her age group, which is not what the article says. I cannot tell whether omitting to mention that the record was not an adult one was a mistake, or a deliberate attempt to make her appear more notable than she is (perhaps in order to avoid a third speedy deletion). The article also states that she was "South American champion", but I can find no confirmation of this anywhere, not even at a youth level. A Google search for "South American champion" "Margarita Martirena" produces nothing except the Wikipedia article, while "Campeón sudamericano" "Margarita Martirena" produces four hits, none of which says that she was a South American champion: they merely mention "Campeón sudamericano" and "Margarita Martirena" separately, in different parts of the pages. The article says "she competed in the Pan American Games in Indianapolis in 1987". After much searching in both English and Spanish, I eventually found http://www.cou.org.uy/cou/home/home/index.php?Clipping=854&menu=sub1_2&t=secciones&secc=452&top=437, which includes her name in a list of participants, but that is all: I found no coverage beyond mention of her name. Clearly this is participation at a high level, but Notability (sports) makes it quite clear that mere participation in an event at this level, rather than achieving a high position, is not enough. Evidently she achieved a high standard in athletics, but after a considerable time searching, I have been unable to find any sources in either English or Spanish that come anywhere remotely near to showing that she satisfies either the general notability guideline or the guideline for notability in sports. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 08:32, 25 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Response to the nomination:
 * She was born in 1966. By the time of her asserted record in Seville in 1990 she was 23 or 24. By then she wasn't a child and the record wasn't for her age group.
 * In addition, the Confederación Atlética del Uruguay on its home page has a link, "Records Nacionales", leading to the list of all national record holders. She's on there, on page 2, on the list of absolute Uruguayan woman record holders, for the 1990 Seville event. This is corroborated by a page on the Defensor Sporting website.
 * This reprint of some earlier article is about the ODESUR Santiago games, and it affirms that "Margarita Martirena se llevó un Oro en el equipo de 4 x 100" ("Margarita Martirena took Gold with the 4 x 100 team"). Winning an event at the South American Games (ODESUR) = being a South American champion in the event.
 * The article doesn't say she got a medal at the Indianapolis event, so there is no reason to expect more than that the page you identified would reflect her participation.
 * —Largo Plazo (talk) 11:49, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying all that. I am now withdrawing the nomination. Perhaps you can add the documents you have mentioned to the sourcing of the article, becasue at present it si not clear in the article. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 15:28, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.