Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Barsi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. In addition, the article will be salted. —Tom Morris (talk) 17:44, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Maria Barsi

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Article was previously redirected to the Judith Barsi article as it rather apparent that the subject does not meet WP:ENTERTAINER or any other notability inclusions. However, one user, Monsterpose43, has restored the article twice without giving a reason why so I'm bringing it here. In short, the subject was seemingly the mother of a notable subject but was not notable herself. The information in the current article is merely repeated in the Judith Barsi article. Suggest deletion or, again, redirecting to the daughter's article.  Pinkadelica ♣  05:07, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2012 January 1.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  05:26, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Subject fails WP:GNG and article is nothing more than WP:MEMORIAL. Google search only produces results for Judith Barsi and links to other memorial sites.  Sottolacqua  (talk) 15:26, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:34, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:34, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Fails WP:VICTIM. If some sort of admin lock can be put on it, I would be OK with a redirect to Judith Barsi where there exists adequate coverage of her role/relationship. Location (talk) 18:59, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Relies heavily on inherited notability from Judith Barsi. Agree with User:Location that a redirect to Judith Barsi is OK. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 14:38, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per both WP:VICTIM and WP:INHERIT. The murder wouldn't have been notable at all had it not been for Judith Barsi's notability; and as the victim of a non-notable murder, Maria Barsi would have been doubly non-notable.  I wouldn't even support a redirect: it seems highly unlikely that anyone would be trying to find out about MB if they didn't already know about JB; and the presence of a redirect would undoubtedly lead to well-meaning editors' Wikilinking MB within the JB article.  Ammodramus (talk) 19:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SNOW, WP:INHERIT, WP:MILL, and WP:NOTNEWS. The article has been listed for deletion for almost two weeks without a defender.  Sadly, murder rates peaked in the late 1980s; they were run-of-the-mill during that time.  The only reason she's famous is because her daughter was murdered.  A Google news search reveals no substantive news stories after four months; this indicated there was no lasting effect of the crime.  There is not a single reliable source to prove she is notable for any reason. Bearian (talk) 20:34, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.