Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Chuana


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. One (talk) 05:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Maria Chuana

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Non-notable band. They seem to have self-published some music, and played in front of audiences, but that's about it. No major tours, no media coverage, no reliable sources whatsoever apparent from their meager google coverage. All sources given are to unreliable sources (including the band's official website). The article itself describes the band as being active "on [the] underground". And that means - dun dun dunnn - that no reliable coverage is likely to exist. Someguy1221 (talk) 23:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC) Note: the request for deletion of this article here is only a mirror of the request on the SK-wiki and the CS-wiki, where you coould get  the feeling of watching a war. Probably the author did something that does not fit the admins and his article is to be deleted. For the SK-wiki and CS-wiki the band is relevant. Regards, 217.83.49.239 (talk) 10:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  04:35, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but you're wrong. That band is unknown and nonnotable and not fulfill requirements of encyclopedic relevance in (and for) both countries, Czech Republic and Slovakia; based on the current status of voting it seem like that article will be deleted at both wikis.--  J   onesy22    talk  13:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You are not true. It seems that article will be kept at Czech Wikipedia, some new source were added. --Dezidor (talk) 16:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The only "third party" sources I see added were this and this (I'm ignoring the webzine, as that would never be an RS under en.Wikipedia standards). Now, I don't know what the Czech standards are (nor does it make a difference), but those would be considered trivial listings and don't establish notability, as far as the English Wikipedia's notability guideline is concerned. Someguy1221 (talk) 19:51, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, non-notable band at all.--  J   onesy22    talk  07:13, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, nonnotable band, all studio albums selfreleased per MA. Vasiľ (talk) 16:11, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails notability per WP:MUSIC. Searching finds no significant coverage in reliable, third-party, sources.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 01:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, absence of reliable sources even in the Czech and Slovak language. The article was deleted and re-created on Slovak Wikipedia. --Vejvančický (talk) 14:16, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * There are third party sources in the article at Czech Wikipedia. --Dezidor (talk) 16:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - 15 years, 4 albums - Jedudedek (talk) 21:17, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Does that ("15 years, 4 albums") prove the notability? --Vejvančický (talk) 10:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No jelikož angličtina není má silná stránka, tak nezbývá než to napsat česky.
 * Kapela imho splňuje podmínky encyklopedické významnosti a na internetu je dostatek zdrojů toto potvrzujících. Máme tu dva zdroje, které označují kapelu za undergrundovou legendu, respektive veličinu , pak je tu rozhovor pro Korzár a recenze na poslední album. No a kdyby to nestačilo, je tu přinejmenším ještě recenze alba Again With Hatred české thrash-metalové kapely Shaark, která je dle recenzenta jen o chloupek lepší než slovenští Maria Chuana. No a na závěr ještě od stejného autora recenze již zmiňovaného alba.
 * Jedudedek (talk) 22:48, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment OK, I'll try to translate previous Czech comment: Maria Chuana is notable also for English Wikipedia, since there are several sources proving its notability. Two sources ( and ) call Maria Chuana an underground legend. Furthermore, we have an interview with them here, and also a review of their last album. Maria Chuana is mentioned also in the Again With Hatred LP review of the Czech trash metal band Shark. The same author on the same website reviewed also Maria Chuana's last album here. - End of translation. If I'm wrong, please correct me.--Vejvančický (talk) 12:38, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm still opposing, since the sources and coverage are trivial in my opinion. In that case we should have thousands articles for thousands of Czech (or Slovak) bands with similar "notability", and that's inadmissible for Wikipedia, IMO. Notability guideline for English Wikipedia is here, check please. --Vejvančický (talk) 12:38, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The article was deleted on the Slovak Wikipedia. There is, however, continuing discussion (and almost war :)) between fans, members of the band, former manager of the band and editors of the Slovak Wikipedia. --Vejvančický (talk) 13:28, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


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