Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Gomes Valentim


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Maria Gomes Valentim

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Another non-notable supercentenarian. The situation with her being the world's oldest person was, to put it mildly, extremely confusing, and as a result there wasn't any significant coverage of her. The entire article is that she lived, had relatives, and died. WP:NOPAGE, maybe a minibio somewhere but certainly not a full article. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 01:57, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete most of the page is about the horserace of who lasts the longest. Her family is not notable. Dying of multiple organ failure is not surprising at all for an old person. Her son lived to a normal age - not surprising. See WP:NOPAGE Legacypac (talk) 13:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete This article fails WP:GNG, WP:BIO1E, and WP:NOPAGE. There is no policy that the "oldest x" is notable and this article is empty once you remove longevity fancruft like mundane record information and her family tree. Her name, life dates, and nationality are best handled on the three lists they already reside on. This WP:PERMASTUB is not needed. Newshunter12 (talk) 23:47, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete – Trivia about age records is recorded on the relevant lists. The rest is extremely routine. — JFG talk 20:03, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Despite the arguments of not enough coverage, in Brazil where I live, her case was covered by main national TV news, as soon as she was recognised as oldest living woman at the time, and when she passed away. Although she and some other supercentenarians were humble people or common citizens, the interest on them is about longevity, and also social interest. So it seems that there is a persecution about supercentenarians, like the less wikipedia keeps about them the best, explain better why is that like this? We need to be resonable... IacobusBr (talk) 21:37, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The coverage was way out of control. People who were not even that old but made claims (or other people made claims) were getting full articles. We have deturmined that just getting old is not a claim to notability. If sufficent sources can be added (English not required) there maybe an exception to be made. Legacypac (talk) 22:19, 3 December 2018 (UTC)


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