Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Kamm


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Jack Frost (talk) 23:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Maria Kamm

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Fails NPOV, cites YouTube. Creator has created a few Tanzanian BLP articles that were later nominated for deletion. Opal&#124;zukor (discuss) 13:40, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete does not have sourcing to meet GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Youtube sources aren't good enough, the rest aren't much either. Oaktree b (talk) 16:41, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Current souces doesn't passes WP:GNG. Pilean (talk) 21:57, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I have added sources, and edited the text so that it is more neutral. She has been recognized in her country as a significant leader in women's education. She has been written about in the Tanzanian press but it is difficult to access the original sources because they are not digitized. PMCH2 (talk) 16:10, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: Suggest moving to draft rather than delete to allow more time to establish notability using more reliable sources. – 108.56.139.120 (talk) 20:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep It's hard to determine notability for people outside of the anglo-sphere, so notability of figures should be considered through that lens. She was named Woman of the Year by the prime minister of tanzania, and was a member of the Tanzanian Parliament, inherently meeting NPOL. Also given a lifetime achievement award by Tanzanian Women of Achievement. This search indicates a fair bit of coverage in the Tanzania Daily News (via AllAfrica.com and ProQuest), including an article describing her as a Prominent retired teacher and former Member of Parliament Maria Kamm. She also comes up in books and is even mentioned in American media . I think the summation of the coverage is enough to meet GNG. There is likely more coverage in Swahili. AFD is not cleanup. Eddie891 Talk Work 16:47, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, gidonb (talk) 18:25, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per the sources provided above; in addition, there is this book in German: Gnomingstuff (talk) 15:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, and once again, WP:GNG does not have an "in English-language/Western sources" asterisk. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 17:49, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, notability now clearly demonstrated (including as a member of a national parliament, although that does not appear to be her main claim to fame). —David Eppstein (talk) 20:40, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep – The subject is presumed notable per the first point of WP:NPOL, because she is a former Member of Parliament in Tanzania (National Assembly (Tanzania)), winning a Special Seat for Tanzanian Mainland (news link). North America1000 04:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - per keep arguments above; qualifies for multiple reasons Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:NPOL. Mccapra (talk) 11:56, 23 January 2021 (UTC)


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