Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Said


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 12:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Maria Said

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Non notable local politician, does not meet the criteria at WP:Notability (people) as highest position achieved is as a councillor in a small Maltese town. Much of the article is about the alleged notability of relatives and thus irrelevant. Speedy declined. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete as not meeting WP:Notability (people).--Tikiwont (talk) 14:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability is not inherited. The vast majority of this article is claiming notability by association. I'm afraid it doesn't work like that. DarkAudit (talk) 15:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Claims to notability seem in large part to be claims about family notability. This perhaps says something about Maltese politics, but at the risk of falling foul of WP:BIAS I'm going to go with delete on this one. --Paularblaster (talk) 17:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * save The article is based on a politician, even if she is noble by blood, it is important to display as well. talk 1709, 18th November 2009, (ETC) —Preceding undated comment added 10:08, 18 November 2009 (UTC).
 *  Strong Speedy Delete: Quite aside from not meeting the standards of WP:N, as a local town councillor, there is significant potential WP:COI issues with the family of Said-Vassallo, of which the author may be a member, as well as this article being linked to the website of a indef blocked editor and recently cited by a newly blocked editor who likewise is very concerned with Maltese nobility, whose first Wikipedia edits were three days after the author of this article. Please see User_talk:LessHeard_vanU for some discussion on the subject.    RGTraynor  15:03, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * *Comment: Changing my vote to Speedy Delete per G5; the creator of the article, User:Vassallo5448, has just been indef blocked for being a sockpuppet of a blocked account.   RGTraynor  17:23, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Apart from the fact that nothing in this article actually establishes notability even if true (with some generosity it's a borderline case), we have a suspicion of fraud due to an obvious conflict of interest: The source for this person's claimed nobility is the website maltagenealogy.com, one of two enterprises belonging to her nephew Charles Said-Vassallo. (See here for the interesting complete list of both.) Hans Adler 15:38, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete no sources, no assertion of notability, clear fail of BIO.Bali ultimate (talk) 16:53, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.