Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Teresa Sobieska


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The result was   redirect to John III Sobieski. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:45, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Maria Teresa Sobieska

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Notability is not inheritied, right? Otherwise I think this article fails Notability (biographies). Royalty, yes, but she died at the age of 2, and her death was of little interest to anyone outside immediate family, and later genealogists. She has never been a subject of any dedicated scholarly work, through of course she is mentioned in passing in a number of works about her notable family or parents. Pl wiki deletion discussion at pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/biografie/2014:01:25:Maria Teresa Sobieska will probably end in keep, but pl wiki is less strict than en wiki. I'd be interested in hearing opinions about whether we should keep this article or not in our project. Thoughts? Pinging User:Sobiepan who removed notability tag a while back. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:54, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I am in favour of deleting this article. I would go so far as to question whether she was royalty at all: correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Henrician Articles (signed by her father, among others) denied her the title of princess of Poland or any constitutional status derived from her father's kingship. In any case, she is certainly not notable. An infant who died centuries ago might pass the notability test if he or she was heir apparent or heir presumptive, but this child was neither. Surtsicna (talk) 15:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's a valid point, as far as I know she was not the heir to anything extraordinary; I made a similar point in the pl wiki discussion. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 18:41, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to father John III Sobieski who's notable, because she isn't. Cited sources seem to be about her father or mother. --Colapeninsula (talk) 16:03, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect as above.TheLongTone (talk) 18:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * keep - king's daughter. She is notable enough, on polish Wikipedia the same Wikipedian made the same request -> with claim that Maria Teresa wasnt described in newspaper. Andrzej19 (talk) 18:36, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That does not make her notable, since she had no hereditary claim to her father's throne. Surtsicna (talk) 22:36, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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