Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mariama Bawumia


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The result was no consensus. A discussion about a merge / redirect to Mumuni Bawumia can be had after this debate. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:40, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Mariama Bawumia

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no evidence of notability .Obituaries, but there are nno specific accomplishments behind them--except that she is the mother of the vice-president. The rule is NOT INHERITED.  DGG ( talk ) 04:35, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  Angry Harpy    talk 05:38, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  Angry Harpy    talk 05:38, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ghana-related deletion discussions.  Angry Harpy    talk 05:38, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep: Kindly keep this article because the biography is notable and verifiable and also the mother of the vice president of Ghana.Jwale2 (talk) 16:02, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * thats exactly the point--we keep spouses of head sof state, and sometimes their children; we  sometimes will keep the spouse of someone in the office of vice president if there's sufficient well-sourced material. We don't keep other relatives on the basis of their relationship, unless there's independent notability, as is possible with the parents of very famous people.  For example, we could probably justify it for the parents of Kwame Nkrumah, but we haven't even made redirects from them.  I don't think the current vice-president of this article is even remotely in the same category.  DGG ( talk ) 19:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep: I also think this article should be kept because she is notable in Ghana to have received a wide coverage before and after her death. She was known to be among the first Northern region females to have gone to school. She was also known when the vice president wished her a 'happy birthday'. So kindly keep the article. Thanks daSupremo   [talk]  22:37, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep I vote keep because her death and her being the mother of the Vice-president of Ghana has made a lot of headways this few days. If she wasn't notable when alive her death has made her notable considering the number of publications speaking about her now.Owula kpakpo (talk) 10:39, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep A quick Google Search does reveal hits from major news agencies in Ghana. I agree with User:DGG that the notability criteria is NOT INHERITED, but with this much national attention and media coverage around their person, it's hard to argue that they're not notable in their own rights. --Masssly (talk) 11:04, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment There is no in-depth and independent coverage about her. All the sources about her are associated with Mahamudu Bawumia. I don't think so it makes her notable for being a mother of Mahamudu Bawumia. Mehmood.Husain (talk) 23:17, 16 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment "to be among the first Northern region females to have gone to school." is not notability . One could argue that if she were the very first, and it could be proven, there might be, but "one of the first" to do anything at all is always meaningless puffery. That the mother of someone is notable because their son wished them happy birthday is utterly ludicrous. People dying does not make them notable if they weren't notable previously.  People who have for any reason just become notable in the last few days are unlike to remain a subject of encyclopedic interest.  If there were any doubt that she might possibly be notable, thearguments above in this afd discussion prove otherwise.  DGG ( talk ) 04:17, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I looked through the sources and did a Gsearch but everything is about the funeral itself and not the subject of the article. No mentions of any achievements, even small local-interest ones. The first-student bit doesn't indicate notability either. The rationale of the keep votes seem like they're unfamiliar with WP:RECENTISM, and I think the mention of her passing on Mahamudu Bawumia's article is sufficient for her inclusion in WP. Estheim (talk) 05:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep as significant news coverage exists. Peter303x (talk) 00:58, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete This brings back memories of the massive problem we had with supercentenarian articles about utterly non-notable people. So what, she went to school and lived into her 80s? WP:HOLE applies, the news coverage here is so thoroughly routine as to be, if anything, an argument against notability. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 00:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to the article on her husband, the politician Mumuni Bawumia. There is nothing about her to make her individually notable. There's no reason we couldn't include much of the content on her in a family or personal life section in the article on her husband.4meter4 (talk) 16:54, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: Weak sourcing with no notability. Does not pass GNG. –– FormalDude  talk  21:38, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per The Blade of the Northern Lights. MrsSnoozyTurtle 07:39, 24 September 2021 (UTC)


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