Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marie Marguerite, Duchess of Anjou


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 07:15, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Marie Marguerite, Duchess of Anjou

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Fails WP:GNG. If I'm wrong and she is notable, then her only notability is through her husband. DrKay (talk) 05:22, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Royalty and nobility,  and Spain. DrKay (talk) 05:22, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: France and Venezuela.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:39, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment The Spanish version, as with other languages, offer Spanish references that would allow the subject to meet WP:GNG . While WP:INHERITED normally applies, the subject is a claimant to a royal lineage, and ancestry is precisely what it is all based on. I would normally lean towards a weak keep. However, I don't know enough of the subject to comment on this, WP:INHERITED must still be considered, and overall other editors probably have better feedback based on this. Best regards, --NoonIcarus (talk) 01:56, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment. WP:INHERITED isn't a content guideline nor is it a policy. It's part of an essay about arguments to be avoided at AfD, so it needn't be considered at all. The subject's notability should be determined by coverage in reliable sources. That the coverage may be because of some antiquated title doesn't matter. pburka (talk) 03:27, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Per the Spanish sources she meets notability, and as was pointed out WP:INHERITED is merely an essay. Atchom (talk) 01:07, 7 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. Available sources meet WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:44, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources identified by NoonIcarus. ~Kvng (talk) 13:38, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete I cannot see how the sources meet WP:GNG. The sources mention her as the daughter of her fahter and the wife of her husband. Theoreticalmawi (talk) 21:42, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:50, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Out of the five sources listed in the Spanish page of the subject, only three are accessible online and one the first article constitutes significant coverage, with the second only has trivial mention and the third is behind paywall. There are more sources in the French page, but I only see two suitable sources: one by El Mondo and another by purepeople. The rest are either inaccessible (offline publications or behind paywall), trivial mentions, or unsuitable sites like blogs, Youtube and facebook page. There seem to be a number of significant coverage enough to pass WP:GNG, but honestly the individual has very little accomplishments other than what being born into the nobility gave her access to. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 23:41, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * There is nothing fundamentally wrong with offline sources, sources behind a paywall and even sources that are now a dead link. If the sources can be accessed by someone (e.g. paying for a subscription, visiting a library, using the Wayback Machine), WP:V is satisfied. We should WP:AGF on the part of the editors that added these. ~Kvng (talk) 14:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak keep Meets WP:GNG. I'd ask to be careful of neutrality, though. --NoonIcarus (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2023 (UTC)


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