Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mariestella Racal


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The result was redirect to Pinoy Big Brother (season 6). Spartaz Humbug! 13:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Mariestella Racal

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A bio about an artist that was speedied repeatedly under the title Maris Racal and eventually salted. Submited through two different drafts, both of which were rejected twice (this title and User:Inajane/sandbox/Maris Racal), until it was moved unilaterally by the submitter to article space. Blatant promotional tone aside, subject's claim to fame is finishing second in a competition. It seems to me that aside from some routine coverage of her short career (1 year?), she does not meet WP:GNG either, but given the history I feel an AFD should decide once and for all if the article is kept. § FreeRangeFrog croak 16:52, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Weak keep - This is a rather borderline case. At first, I was going to suggest redirecting this and Maris Racal to Pinoy Big Brother: All In, but a search reveals some non-affiliated coverage, such as from GMA-allied PEP.ph and Rappler. Not enough to warrant a stronger keep, but the coverage is there. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:35, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Merge and redirect to Pinoy Big Brother (season 6). All of the references (I checked all of them) are either from ABS-CBN (not independent coverage), fails WP:RS, or is about her Pinoy Big Brother appearance (WP:ONEEVENT). If someone finds non-ABS-CBN quality references for her non-Big Brother activities we could give this article a try. – H T  D  09:19, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Please check my comment above. She has received coverage from PEP.ph and Rappler regarding some of her recent acting gigs. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:53, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * These sources aren't used in the article. – H T  D  11:03, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, but they can easily be added to the article in order to establish notability. Also, WP:GNG and others pretty much say that the sources don't necessarily have to be in the article to establish notability; merely that they exist (yes I know this is a BLP, but I don't think BLP is in conflict with policies/guidelines like WP:V). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:54, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * If you think these sources are good enough for a discussion her post-PBB activities (and not just passing mentions), you're more than welcome to add them to the article. – H T  D  02:21, 28 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin - The references I found, among others, are:, , and . Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge & Redirect to Pinoy Big Brother (season 6). Subject has received multiple mentions in reliable sources, however few if any meet significant coverage, calling into question whether the subject is yet notable per WP:GNG. While the subject has received a Star Cinema award, the award doesn't appear to be sufficiently notable for the subject to pass WP:ANYBIO. I am also unsure as to whether the subject meets any of the three criteria set forth in WP:NACTOR. Therefore, as the subject appears to fall under WP:BLP1E, redirect to the show where the most mentions include the subject of this AfD. If the subject passes any of those notability guidelines I mentioned later, I would not oppose recreation then.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:41, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.