Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marijan Rističević


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The result was   keep. Cirt (talk) 00:51, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Marijan Rističević

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Only claim to fame is as minor run for office that got 0.45% of the vote, per WP:POLITICIAN, simply failing to be elected is not notable unless there is other factors of notability.  MBisanz  talk 14:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - He was the presidential candidate and is the leader of Pesant Party. If you mentioned Marijan Rističević in Serbia you would get 100% recognition from people asked. How come if he wins only 0.5% or 2.86% with his party? Well because he is one of those goofy politicians for whom rarely anyone votes because they are more jokers than politicians but everyone knows who they are because they are prominently shown in media. I think each country has a politician like that, that runs in every election, nobody votes for him but everyone knows who he is quite well. Please reconsider your nomination as it seems to me you don't understand the notability of this guy because you based it on his election results. Keep in mind that we can't include the rest in the article because of the rules of bios of living persons, calling him a goofy politician and a joke candidate, even though it is true, would be a violation of rules--Avala (talk) 15:09, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Although you may get 100% name recognition in Serbia, statements on Wikipedia should be backed up by reliable sources independent of the subject. Name recognition doesn't count unfortunately (unless you back it up with reliable sources), and I would say that this would probably constitute some kind of original research. Remember, articles on Wikipedia need to be verifiable - verifiability is the threshold, not truth. JulieSpaulding (talk) 15:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

*Delete. Article also fails the general notability guideline as I can't find any significant coverage of this person in a reliable independent source. I translated what looked to be the only links with substance from my Google search from Serbian into English but found nothing (a forum post about racism, a short statement on the candidate - short as in two sentences!) so delete. JulieSpaulding (talk) 15:13, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Further comment - The only truly reliable source I can find is the English translation of the reference cited on the page. WP:GNG prefers multiple sources as opposed to just one. JulieSpaulding (talk) 15:16, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:34, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * (ec)Keep. Of course you cannot find many English sources for a 2nd league Serbian politician. However, he passes all thresholds easily, and there is a lot of sources in Serbian, and I just added a longish one. Discounting the election monitors, there are also, , , , . I'm not sure what JulieSpaulding was searching for, but Google gives me fat 26,000 hits. No such user (talk) 16:38, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - apparently, a former member of the national parliament. Warofdreams talk 17:28, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article has adequate references. Members of a national parliament are automatically notable. - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:34, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Changing to Keep. I did not realise that Marijan was a member of the Serbian parliament, and obviously those meet the WP:POLITICIAN guidelines. In response to your question, I searched for 'Marijan Rističević' in Google and translated all Serbian pages into English. Maybe I just missed it. Anyway, thanks for pointing that out! JulieSpaulding (talk) 01:48, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep MP, presidential candidate. Obviously notable politician. ¨¨ victor   falk  11:22, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Unquestionable keep as member of a national legislature. This was for some reason not in the article when nominated, but could easily have been found if any checking at all had been done before nominating.    DGG ( talk ) 02:11, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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