Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mariko Morikawa


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The result was keep.  A r k y a n  &#149; (talk) 19:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Mariko Morikawa

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Article doesn't pass WP:BIO or WP:PORNBIO. Epbr123 18:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Multiple videos, multiple magazine appearances, a theatrical release. "Mariko Morikawa" is an icon in the Japanese big-bust genre. This AfD is ludicrous. Its deletion would not only be censorship, it would be a culturally biased assault against the coverage of the Japanese erotic cinema on English Wikipedia. As a sign of her notability in Japan, out of the hundreds, if not thousands of actresses who have made adult video debuts yearly in Japan since the early 1980s, editors of Japanese Wikipedia give this actress a lengthy article. Pornography has long been, and continues to be a very significant part of Japanese popular culture, and English Wiki's coverage of the Japanese porn area is woefully lacking. Taking out two general articles and four articles on pink film actresses, the English Wikipedia, with going-on 2 million articles, currently has 57 articles in Category:Japanese porn stars. For comparison, Chinese Wikipedia, with less than 118,000 articles, has 67 articles on Japanese AV actresses. In 1994 it was reported that "approximately 14,000 "adult" videos were being made yearly in Japan compared with some 2500 in the U.S.". Also, "In addition to the influence of pornography on mainstream cinema, the line between pornography and family entertainment, such as daytime television, is blurred. It is not uncommon in Japan for a waning female television star or singer to feature in pornographic videos. Similarly, there are women actors from pornographic videos who move into daytime television." And further, "By the late 1970s the production of pink eiga together with Roman Porno amounted to more than 70% of annual Japanese film production." And finally, "The market for pornographic videos is worth Y400 billion annually, accounting for around 30 percent of [Japan]’s video rentals." The article is a on major Japanese celebrity, and is not a vanity page. Use of "Notability" to delete articles on lesser-known celebrities is an abuse of the term. With pornography's high visibility in Japan, her status as an AV idol gives her much higher notability in her country than her U.S. counterparts have in their country. To further chip away at Wikipedia's already meagre coverage of Japanese erotic cinema would be to further cultural bias. Dekkappai 18:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not that this will slow down the "Fails WP:PORNBIO" parrotting, but #4: "Performer has been notable or prolific within a specific genre niche" After Kimiko Matsuzaka, Mariko Morikawa is probably the icon of the big-bust genre in Japan. Dekkappai 20:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I believe this passes WP:PORNBIO. Specifically, D Cups Japan is probably a notable or as PORNBIO says well-known magazines enough magazine, her natural endowment might classify as unique, noteworthy contributions.  It is a close call and trying very hard to be objective, I think she passes. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 19:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of Porn star deletions. Dekkappai 19:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:PORNBIO. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 20:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Contrary to the above vote, subject meets at least two criteria of WP:PORNBIO (notable within a specific genre niche & original film named after the performer). Caknuck 21:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Dekkappai. Can't really add anything to that because he pretty much covered it all. LaMenta3 21:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Dekkappai. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 21:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. 1) Satisfy absolutely 2 points of WP:PORNBIO and other points of WP:PORNBIO arbitarily. 2) Dekkappai had put up good points. Definitely satisfy WP:N in Japan. 3) Cannot assume good faith of Epbr123 anymore; the criticism of his talk page was recently deleted by Epbr123, and when it was reverted, he deleted them back, stating "mind your own business". 4) Per talk page, possible sock puppet or even Meat puppet. George Leung 22:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep agree with what Dekkappai has already covered. --Hexvoodoo 23:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep' and another per Dekkappai - good research.  Eliminator JR  Talk  01:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep She is notable. Acalamari 22:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions.  -- Neier 02:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.