Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marilyn Monroe pornographic film


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The result was  d elete. - Mailer Diablo 10:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Marilyn Monroe pornographic film

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A contested {prod}. Well, this is an easy one -- the information in the article just ain't true. Here's the story: in 1980 a Swedish photographer supposedly found a 1948 porn film starring Marilyn Monroe. Supposedly the FBI investigated the film (why? who knows!) and Joe DiMaggio even offered $25,000 to buy the only copy. Sound fishy? Well, for something as remarkable as this, not one reliable source seems to have ever written about it. Some blogs, however, appear to have the story. The Village Voice once made a reference to the rumor existing. But this article presents the once-referenced rumor as fact. This one has to go on account of totally failing WP:V and WP:OR. JayHenry 19:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, actually the VV source refutes the article, noting that the actress is Arline Hunter. Her article covers it adequately. --Dhartung | Talk 21:30, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, to be clear, I meant the article on Marilyn Monroe presents as fact what the Village Voice mentions as rumor. I also found a Time Magazine story that explicitly debunks this Marilyn Monroe porn myth: Time Magazine story. --JayHenry 00:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Dhartung; if the sources dispute it then there is no Marilyn Monroe pornographic film and the article is useless. -- Mithent 00:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - it's patently untrue. The article presents as facts that which is not true, and is specifically states as untrue in the only reference in the article.  --Haemo 00:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - patently untrue per Time article. Resurgent insurgent 01:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep but rewrite - Since we have plenty of articles about urban legends, myths, and memes anyway, might as well add this one to the collection - just rewrite it to stress the apparent debunkings and make sure no one walks away thinking any of this has been conclusively proven as fact. wikipediatrix 13:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd support a redirect to Arline Hunter, and support adding a bit more information to the Hunter article about this and other tapes. But we can't have an article called "Marilyn Monroe pornographic film" when no such film exists.  This whole thing was just some cheap commercial stunt to make some money off a 5-minute porno from the 1940s, and it wasn't even successful as the few mentions to this stunt are only in passing and virtually nobody has ever taken the claim seriously.  In other words, there's simply not enough information about this trivial hoax to write a verifiable encyclopedia entry about it. --JayHenry 17:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete but, especially if reliable sources (say, the Village Voice) can be used, add content to Arline Hunter (which doesn't mention it as a rumor, but rather that people have mistaken her). Rigadoun (talk) 17:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as hoax. --Abnn 18:03, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * CautionThe village voice reference does more than mention the Arlen Hunter mix-up, but goes on to discuss the FBI files and the Joe DiMaggio issues. This may not entirely be a hoax.  Whether or not the rumor is tru, it does appear to be a notable rumor, given the sources in Village Voice and possibly Time.  I will, however, hold off on voting for now. &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 22:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


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