Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mario Alberto Sulú Canché


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Nakon 01:40, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Mario Alberto Sulú Canché

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This deceased person is reported as perpetrated some pretty horrendous crimes based upon questionable sources. I removed one source which was a blog post but the other three sources are non-subjective newspaper stories. I really don't know about this article and would like input from others with more experience with biographies. I can't find mentions of court decisions with guilty sentences. One newspaper said he confessed but without quoting the man.  Bfpage &#124;leave a message 13:16, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment:Covered in reputable Mexican press, such as La Jornada, but doesn't seem to have made much impact. 2x La Jornada articles, and 1 in La Crónica de Hoy. Was picked up by some international press, but not especially notable. Simon Burchell (talk) 15:53, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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 * I only questioned the notability AFTER reading the newspaper articles. They seemed to present only one point of view. If this were about a deceased american and the crimes happened in the US, there would have to be some kind of information to provide a modicum of balance.  I guess what I am saying is this:  is it up to Wikipedia to 'report' that this person is guilty of all these things based upon newspaper stories that do not provide a balanced point of view?
 *  Bfpage &#124;leave a message 11:56, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It is up to Wikipedia to present a balanced view of the sources. If the sources are saying the person is guilty, to accurately represent the sources, Wikipedia should be presenting what is reported, in as neutral a fashion as possible e.g. "it was reported by Mexican newspaper la Jornada that so-and-so was found guilty of such-a-crime".
 * If there is no verdict, as seems to be the case here, it is a bit trickier, and I would say that without a verdict there probably shouldn't be an article without a lot more sources establishing notability. Someone being accused of a crime isn't necessarily notable.Simon Burchell (talk) 15:23, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This is exactly what I was thinking-I am somewhat concerned that this person, whoever he was, is now going to go down in history as described in the article about him. Accusations from newspapers probably are not notable.  The person was never found guilty even though the papers accuse him of guilt.  The articles are poorly written and are heavily editorialized.
 *  Bfpage &#124;leave a message 13:16, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 08:19, 12 March 2015 (UTC) *Keep - for now. I can not say that this article should be deleted or redirected etc. It seems that some notability is involved.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:41, 17 March 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 01:07, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Three (alleged) victims isn't a particularly significant tally for a murderer. Pax 03:18, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
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