Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mario Goossens


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The result was delete. Notability for this artist has not been properly demonstrated.  —♦♦ AMBER  (ЯʘCK)  19:43, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Mario Goossens

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Fails WP:BIO. As per the requirements of WP:NMUSIC, while the artist has been a member of multiple notable bands, "these are merely rules of thumb used by some editors when deciding whether or not to keep an article that is on articles for deletion". However, "the article itself must document notability." This doesn't and this musician isn't otherwise notable. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 02:26, 25 March 2013 (UTC) Note that from 2007 until a few hours ago, the page was a redirect to Winterville (band), where it should be redirected again. It was resurrected as an article by the creator of Template:Mario Goossens, who is WP:POINTily trying to bulk out the link count on dubious navboxes by creating pointless articles. (For another recent example of this disruption, see Articles for deletion/Voyeur (War from a Harlots Mouth album)). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC) The WP:POINTiness is your creation of a "tiny article that can never be expanded". -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:10, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator; the article clearly fails WP:BIO. It is referenced only to http://www.gretschdrums.com/?fa=artistdetail&id=775, which says in full "About the Artist: Here are some bands Mario plays with: Triggerfinger, Savalas, Hooverphonic and Winterville" (and then lists his drum kit). Not only is this way less than the substantial coverage required by WP:GNG, the page is basically an advert for the drums which Goosens uses, so it isn't an independent RS. Time-wasting "article"s like this should really be speedy deleted.
 *  Reply  - Mario is a member of multiple notable bands, therefore, what proof is there that this violates WP:POINT? How do we know to which article to redirect Mario? --Jax 0677 (talk) 08:58, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Reply. See WP:NMUSIC: "Wikipedia should not have a separate article on a person, band, or musical work that does not meet the criteria of either this guideline or the general notability guideline, or any subject that, despite the person meeting the rules of thumb described above, for which editors ultimately cannot locate independent sources that provide in-depth information about the subject. Wikipedia's goal is neither tiny articles that can never be expanded nor articles based primarily on what the subjects say about themselves.".
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


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