Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mario Judah


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Primefac (talk) 13:01, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Mario Judah

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Non-notable musician (in this version unreferenced) which has been submitted and declined several times, in the last instance rejected as lacking notability. (See Draft:Mario Judah). There was also an attempt to copy and paste the draft into mainspace which was ultimately deleted as CV (see here). No indication subject can pass WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC Eagleash (talk) 08:40, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note- Could have nominated for speedy or PROD, but in view of history felt a wider discussion may be necessary (and avoid possible notice removal) and contributors can also consider the possibility of SALT. Eagleash (talk) 08:49, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:17, 14 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails WP:NMUSICIAN, WP:BASIC, WP:GNG and so on; please also consider temporary WP:SALT to prevent this article from being created again immediately after deletion Spiderone  10:18, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 *  speedy Delete - fails WP:NMUSICIAN, No evidence of Notability, Samat lib (talk) 18:09, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Approve - passes WP:SINGER on point 1: has been covered by reliable and independent sources.  This is even corroborated by the references in the rejected Draft:Mario Judah. Judah has 1.9 million monthly listeners on Spotify as of December 14, 2020. He also topped Spotify's Global & UK Viral Charts on October 15, 2020, and remained on the Top 10 for the following three weeks. Judah is verified on Instagram with over 500,000 followers, and has interactions with other verified hip hop musicians, such as Denzel Curry. Bgregz (talk) 01:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note has made few other edits outside this page, the article concerned or userpages. Eagleash (talk) 13:28, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * See ad hominem. Bgregz (talk) 20:07, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * See WP:SPA. Eagleash (talk) 13:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Again, this is simply not about me. With millions of eyes on Mario Judah, it just seems disingenuous to claim that this artist is not notable. The Complex piece even covers Judah's tendency to go viral. Bgregz (talk) 06:56, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Covered in multiple reliable sources 1, 2.--Catlemur (talk) 14:01, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * YouTube is not typically considered a usable source; see WP:RSPYT. Eagleash (talk) 06:03, 21 December 2020‎ (UTC)
 * Keep, it's very clear that he's gained enough relevance to be here. Blueyandicy (talk) 13:45, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - He has a lot of notable articles and featured interviews on him by notable and respectable sources as stated by others in the page. 99.247.44.174 (talk) 04:36, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Not notable the sources cited here are either not independent (interviews), not RS, or do not give significant coverage. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  09:37, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Subject is notable as he has been the subject of articles by several independent, first-rate publications such as those provided by Bgregz. HeyitsBen talk 19:44, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. How is this not notable, there are a lot of reliable sources about the rapper himself. 2019AlwaysLit (talk) 16:29, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Notability cannot be supported by (for example) MusicBrainz, Facebook, Discogs.com, Spotify, IMDb, Amazon, blogs or his own self-published PR or social media accounts or routine listings. Eagleash (talk) 17:24, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * My bro, do you not see Complex, Uproxx, or HotNewHipHop doing solo pages about this man? There's no social media accounts or Facebook or none of that, dude. 2019AlwaysLit (talk) 17:42, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I get that people might use Wikipedia for self promotion. But I'm interested in using Wikipedia to find out more about this musician. He is notable in that he has two popular singles and he was featured on Genius. So I think that counts as notable. Hockeydogpizzapup (talk) 05:32, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to pass WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 03:43, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 12:40, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Just because he's a rising star doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve a page. Saw a couple of the opposition sides' claims saying that he doesn't have any credible sources about him; well he is a new artist after all! Just give it some time, and more information feeds will come in. Asides, his career is taking off pretty well, so it's not like he won't stumble across less networks. The least we could do is give it more time, and it'll pop up eventually. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azurevanilla ash (talk • contribs) 6 January 2021 ((22:19)) (UTC)
 * See WP:TOOSOON. Eagleash (talk) 22:38, 6 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep, for the reasons of those who want this article kept. Davidgoodheart (talk) 12:22, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, agreeing with others that provide consistent articles about the subject. RodeoWrld (talk) 12:54, 11 January 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.