Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marion Baumann-Parkhurst (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  11:26, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Marion Baumann-Parkhurst
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Without any desire to diminish the trials that the subject of this article went through in their life, their experience is not unique and the only case for the notability of this article appears to be a standalone self-published work. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:48, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:48, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
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 * @DGG @Whpq Just nominated this article for deletion before realising that it has apparently come back from the grave. I would re-nominate it for speedy deletion based on it being restored deleted content, but that was in 2009, I can't see the old content, and I'm not sure if there is a statute of limitations for things like this. Please advise. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:56, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment To clarify, this article went through AfD in 2009 and the consensus was for deletion. It has since been created, with what sounds like much the same, limited, self-published sourcing for which it was deleted in the first place. Iskandar323 (talk) 14:52, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:16, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment There is this source: Author looks for release from Bergen-Belsen memories (Santa Cruz Sentinel, 2008, updated 2018) that highlights the significance of surviving and writing two books about The Holocaust, and seems like a start to supporting WP:AUTHOR notability, which requires one work or a collective body of work, and makes no apparent distinction with regard to whether or not the work is self-published. Beccaynr (talk) 14:37, 17 October 2021 (UTC) Her first book is also in the collection of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. Beccaynr (talk) 14:52, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete The normal notability standard for NAUTHOR is two successful books from significant publishers, each with multiple reviews. The one book possibility is there because it sometimes but rarely happens that a person publishes a single book, and becomes very notable for it, like Margaret Mitchell with Gone with  the Wind.  (anyway, The subject in fact only wrote one book, in two volumes). Almost always self-published books don't count for notability by NAUTHOR , again with exceptions-many books before the 19th century were self published , and some authors have preferred it. like Rombauer's The Joy of Cooking. (We have 117 articles about notable self-published books in WP out of our 24,766 articles on notable books). Otherwise anyone with a thousand dollars could be notable. (Or even less, if the internet counts.) The provision for works in museums applies to only   artist's  books, which are usually an assembly of images in book form rather than a book intended to be read in the usual way.
 * Her book has almost never been read, because it is only two libraries--a library that tries to collect every possible book by a Holocaust survivor (they have about 230,000), and her home town library.    DGG ( talk ) 16:34, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. The content of the article deleted in 2009 was fairly similar to this one, except that the Santa Cruz Sentinel citation has been added. But it doesn't appear that this author should be considered notable per WP:NAUTHOR. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:51, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


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