Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Courtney (referee)


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The result was delete. per consensus, lacking evidence of notability, and per past AfD consensus that being a referee does not inherently connote notability. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 21:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Mark Courtney (referee)

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Fails WP:GNG, as I can't find any significant coverage of this referee, only passing mentions. Refereed at FIFA World Cup qualifers and UEFA Cup group stage matches, but as far as I can tell this does not grant a referee automatic notability. Sourced only to football databases. Lennart97 (talk) 20:00, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Lennart97 (talk) 20:00, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Northern Ireland-related deletion discussions. Lennart97 (talk) 20:00, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:09, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per Nomination--dashiellx (talk) 21:08, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 21:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete doesn't pass WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:04, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: I, like others, am unsure if being a referee (or maybe at which stage/level) infers notability similar to player/manager guidelines at WP:NSOCCER. I'd be interested to learn if there are any past AfDs that address this or if a consensus exists anywhere. If just utilizing WP:SIGCOV, I'd probably lean towards delete but there are quite a few mentions of the subject in their line of work covered by large, worldwide sources such as The Los Angeles Times and The BBC in addition to other mentions (typically "controversies") in other more localized sources albeit none seemingly not regarding the subject outside of refereeing duties. GauchoDude (talk) 17:14, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Following this AfD, there was this discussion where there was clear consensus that referees are not inherently notable and needed to meet WP:GNG. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:13, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I hadn't located that discussion before my nomination but came to the same conclusion based on some threads in the WT:FOOTY archives. Is there any chance this consensus could be mentioned at the football notability guideline? Lennart97 (talk) 18:21, 9 December 2021 (UTC)


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