Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Gottlieb (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. The only sources provided here are articles by the subject, which does not establish notability. Being "known" among a gaming community does not either, especially when it is mentioned as speculation rather than a verifiable fact. Tijuana Brass 00:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Mark Gottlieb
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non-notable individual Arthur 21:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Games has been notified of this discussion. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 00:45, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I skimmed the previous AFD (link in box at right), so I understand why people think he's notable, but reliable sources are missing. I can see that he wrote some articles, but who can demonstrate that articles have been written about him, which is a standard notability criterion? Shalom (Hello • Peace) 02:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, Rabbi Mark Gottlieb was once the principal of my high school, but he's not the same person as the subject of this article. I find the coincidence amusing. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 02:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unless reliable external sources are provided. I think the article rather gives away the non-notability with "Within the community of enthusiasts of the game, he is a well-known...". Phil Bridger 14:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Biased Keep - I think we should keep it, but I'm only saying that because I wrote a lot of the article. Cooljeanius (talk) (contribs) 18:48, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete - I know of the guy, but I don't really think he's notable outside of Magic: the Gathering. Having said that, neither is Mark Rosewater, Matt Cavotta, Randy Buehler, or the whole of (yes, I know, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). Perhaps merging them all into a List of Wizards of the Coast employees would be the best way of handling this situation? Terraxos 18:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * On second thoughts, Magicthegathering.com would be the best place to merge all those articles, since it mentions most of them already. Terraxos 18:31, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete I can't see that notability has been established, but kudos to Cooljeanius for honesty! Eixo 18:31, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


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