Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Gottlieb (literary agent)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Mark Gottlieb (literary agent)

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Reviewed under new article curation / review process. No indication of wp:notability. The number of references seems more related to a skilled wikipedia article writer. (Possibly showing literary agent expertise :-) )  Of the 30 references given,  the closest ones I found were two covering his expulsion from the trade association for ethics issues and one medium length interview.

The other references included some self-created ones, listings, plus various mentions of him or quotes of him. The latter did establish that he was or is considered to be prominent within his field locally and probably also at the state level. In a reference search I basically found the same thing. North8000 (talk) 13:17, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable literary agent.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:57, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:06, 23 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. I deleted some of the information in the article after I haven't found any reliable sources. Check the "Talk" page where I discussed the subject in detail. It is relevant because some of the sources somehow where mentioned as "notable" above and it simply doesn't reflect reality. One of the sources (on which most of the information is based) doesn't even exist.Regarding the deletion, since it is not voting here but expressing opinion, I'd like to "comment" instead of saying "keep" or "delete" since these words indicate or hint at "voting" in my opinion. After checking the citations, I established that Mark Gottlieb is notable on the state level (New York), just like North8000 said in his comment above. Due to the fact that New York plays very big role in publishing in the US, I tend to think that Gottlieb is notable enough according to the sources. Second, literary agents's notability is somewhat in "gray water" but my opinion is that notability in such a case should be demonstrated by the number of notable authors a literary agent represents. So, it is the second argument in favor of keeping the page. I brought my arguments to open a normal discussion and I would ask other editors to bring their arguments and not just say "not notable" since it doesn't look serious. I can clearly see when a page is just a promotional fake and when it needs more research and investigation.2601:1C0:CB01:2660:7D1B:85DC:C224:9B4F (talk) 02:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nominator's thorough WP:BEFORE: I agree that the majority of sources available are either SPS, press releases, primary or merely passing mentions of the WP:MILL variety. ——  Serial # 12:35, 26 May 2020 (UTC)


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