Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Green (author)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Overall, concerns about general notability inclusion guidance and also reliable sources. NJA (t/ c)  07:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Mark Green (author)

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I do not believe this subject passes the notability standard. I cannot find any reviews of the book in any newspapers or magazines (not via a Google News search anyway), and I don't believe the author is notable as a military person, a doctor, or a business man. I'll gladly stand corrected, but I just don't see any solid evidence of notability. Drmies (talk) 18:08, 24 December 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 15:45, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * KEEP - The fact that he watched Saddam Hussein the night of his capture is notable enough, IMO. Here is an interview with him on a Nashville TV station: http://www.fox17.com/newsroom/top_stories/wztv_vid_2256.shtml - and here is a an article from the Tennessean: http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091213/OPINION03/912100382/Night-guarding-Saddam-was-night-watching-evil. --Manway (talk) 06:23, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * KEEP - On top of the Nashville 17 segment and Tennessean column, I found the following stories/interviews/reviews by doing a simple google search: Tina Brown's The Daily Beast long-form Q and A interview with the author: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-12-13/a-sleepover-with-saddam/?cid=tag:all1. Panama City, Florida newspaper covered a book signing: http://www.newsherald.com/news/medical-79990-bay-panama.html. Also found radio interviews on line: www.burniethompson.com/tag/dr-mark-green/ and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J95WdI29Wfc&feature=player_embedded. The man spent five and half hours with SAddam Hussein the NIGHT he was captured. He was a witness to history that we need to recognize - especially as we come up to the third anniversary of Hussein's execution on Dec. 30. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iloveeggsinmorning (talk • contribs) 22:27, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Watching a criminal on the night they were arrested is about as non-notable as it gets; if that's all he's known for other than one ignored book, he's simply not notable. --NellieBly (talk) 23:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, NellieBly, Green extracted from Hussein that the Iraqi leader made a deal with Ayatollah Khomeini that the Iranian leader later reneged on that brought about the Iraq/Iran war that killed hundreds of thousands of people. This fact is not highlighted in history books. My question, few if anyone were able to interview Hitler before he was killed or Pol Pot before his death in 1998 - Green accomplished this task and has a story to tell. Iloveeggsinmorning (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 23:51, 24 December 2009 (UTC).
 * These brief mentions/articles in small papers do not suffice. An encyclopedia should demand more than a brief mention in a Panama City paper and a blog. Sorry, Drmies (talk) 01:37, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - He sounds like a great guy, but .... he wildly fails WP:GNG. This is a textbook example of 15 minutes of fame, not notability.  If he "extracted" some information from Saddam, then I take back my nice words about this guy. Bearian (talk) 17:24, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. All the subject's notability stems from one event.-- Pink Bull  05:11, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per WP:BLP1E, author of one self-published book (lulu.com) Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  19:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I came to rescue this article but I can't find any significant additional sources and as it stands Dr Green does not remotely meet WP:AUTHOR I'm afraid. NBeale (talk) 02:08, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I think having interviewed Saddam Hussein on such a dramatic event as his capture does make this character notable enough for Wikipedia.--Grasshopper6 (talk) 23:27, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:BLP1E applies. And writing a book about your 1E doesn't get you past it. So he met Saddam and wrote a book about what he claims Saddam said to him. On a side note, much of it doesn't sound believable in the first place. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:02, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I actually tagged this article for rescue, did what I could to clean it up, and added a source, but cannot find additional information to get this subject past WP:BLP1E. A minor mention of his introducing John McCain at a 2008 campaign stop in Tennessee doesn't seem to rise to the level that I would call it a seperate event, as he seems to have been selected due to the same basis.  Jim Miller  See me 20:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Book is self published, Tennessean link is a user-generated blog post by subject; Daily Beast is a column that can't stand on its own or with other sources are just local articles about a single event. The article needs significant independent news reporting to keep the Khomeini claims (referenced above as reasons to keep) and better reliable sources to support the notability of this person beyond this one event/book. Flowanda | Talk 05:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep The fox news link, plus his coverage in http://www.newsherald.com/news/medical-79990-bay-panama.html and elsewhere, make him notable. Google news his name, and "Saddam" shows plenty of results, but surely its not all the same guy.   D r e a m Focus  23:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sorry but you're not notable if you spent one night with Saddam Hussein.  Bill Clinton, on the other hand... JBsupreme (talk) 09:29, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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