Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Hill (antiques expert)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  22:12, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Mark Hill (antiques expert)

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Subject is an antiques expert who has made occasional TV appearances, maybe best known (if at all) for co-hosting a BBC2 anittiques series with the more famous Lucy Worsley. The remainder of the sources are not secondary, while his books are largely self-published and I'm unable to find multiple reviews about any one of them. As for independent coverage about Hill, the best (and only) thing I can find is a promotional piece on Surrey Life news site. Falls too far short of WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR in my opinion. Sionk (talk) 11:38, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak keep (maybe) - the source itself isn't really reliable but he was indeed chosen as a "poster boy" for National Antiques Week (whatever that is). This article is both about him and by him but it shows they've printed his stuff in the Daily Mail. This is closer to what we're looking for I think. This has more about him and National Antiques Week. This is less about him and more about the program he founded. One more from The Mirror. I'm still not entirely convinced. He fails WP:AUTHOR but the reviews of his TV shows might get him over the line.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 12:04, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - I don't think that the article quite demonstrates notability.--Rpclod (talk) 12:06, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Notability is not absolute. It may be present or absent or "not enough" as in this case: Not notable "enough". --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 12:20, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
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 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2014 July 20.  — cyberbot I  Notify Online 04:51, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - regular appearances on Antiques Roadshow probably count for notability, if we could find independent sources about the subject. Bearian (talk) 19:19, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - he is included in Who is Who following his TV shows and books. Also, his books have been widely reviewed by specialist UK and US publications on glass and ceramics and generally viewed as important summaries on their topics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Preichers (talk • contribs) 23:52, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Any evidence to prove to these claims? Sionk (talk) 23:56, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 23:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep He's mentioned here today and given the other sources shown above, I believe passes the bar for notability.  It would be good to see the refs asked for above, but I'd !vote to keep nonetheless.   Vertium  When all is said and done  01:04, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep You can find selected articles and reviews of his books and work mentioned by me above on . Who's Who do not have direct links or allow access unless you are a subscriber but if you check a 2014 printed edition in your library you will find him listed under Hill, Mark Roger.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Preichers (talk • contribs) 21:04, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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