Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Lind


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep, no consensus. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 04:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Mark Lind

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Flunks WP:MUSIC; no references; only reliable source produced was half a sentence at the end of a college newspaper mentioning the existence of a tour, which is the very epitome of "trivial" in the WP:MUSIC standard. THF 20:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. WP:MUSIC not reached (article says he is "unsigned" - never a good sign); WP:RS also much missed.  RΞDVΞRS ✖  ЯΞVΞЯSΞ  20:45, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Also nominating related articles for similar WP:MUSIC failure:
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 * Comment. He actually isn't signed because he is in negotiating with a new company after his last one expired last month. AxYoung 21:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. Expired label is the red-linked non-notable Sailor's Grave Records.  -- THF 21:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment. Seriously, these pages have been up for over six months. And if you want to delete them then go ahead. But you will never convince me that when one were to google "Mark Lind" + "punk" and "Ducky Boys" + "punk" and got 11,000 and 71,000 results respectively, there isn't some of notability out there. You also can't tell me that a band that has toured with major bands like Dropkick Murphys and Rancid doesn't have respect in the music community. I am in no way a member of the band, nor personally know any member of the band or Mark himself. I simply am interested in their music and their strong following within the Boston Area. But if it will delight the Wikipedia "Gods" to delete this article, please go right ahead. AxYoung 21:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment. P.S. If you were to google Sailors Grave Records, which recently folded, you would see that a number of their bands, like Bombshell Rocks and Angel City Outcasts but there is no mention of Mark Lind. AxYoung 21:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment. We're talking about a band that has been of some prominence in the Boston punk scene since the mid to late 90's here. To debate the significance over what is boiling down to the fact that the record label they/he was on going under is ridiculous. Nhbelongstome 22:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment. I searched for "mark lind" on google and it said its been searched for 2,230,000 times and "sailor's grave records" and it was searched for 840,000 times. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.151.128.160 (talk) 22:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC).  — 24.151.128.160 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Comment. I can't even believe this is being argued. Mark Lind is one of the most talented musicians Boston has ever seen. Considering the massive amount of talent that has come out of this city, THAT is saying something. To even consider removing his Wikipedia page is ludicrous. Same goes for the band's he has been in. - Kato (that's right, I said it) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.192.65.44 (talk) 23:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC).


 * Keep. Through google searches, amazon searches, and a trip to the local record store, the original person that recommended these articles for deletion should have been stopped in their tracks. It's fairly obvious that each of these entries warrants a spot on the "highly regarded" wikipedia site.  Quit wasting your time on these entries and move on to pages that deserve to be deleted.SkaTroma 08:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep It's absurd to think that anyone would want to delete an artist as important to the Boston Punk Scene as Mark Lind. As stated above... do a google search and take note of all the results. This also would apply to Marks band the Ducky Boys. Seriously, to delete this artist and his former band The Ducky Boys, would undermine the credibility of Wikipedia in general. This also would be a slap in the face to any and all artists who take a DIY approach to music. The fact that Lind has mantained C.D. sales in a very competitive market, even after problems with his label, is a testament to his "Notability". If Linds status as a "signed artist" due to a "hiccup" from Sailors Grave records is your basis for deletion, then you realy ought to re examine your policy. I would think that a 12 year recored of putting out succesful releases, not to mention influencing many other young Boston bands alone would warrent inclusion in Wikipedia. I won't even go into the other "notables" Mark has performed with. That would take up quite a bit more space. The staff of Wikipedia needs to reconsider this ill advised deletion.Skv260 21:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)ssm — Skv260 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Weak Keep Despite not meeting the absolute letter of WP:Music a few clicks around the Internet do seem to confirm that this chap is (at least) fairly famous (if only in the Eastern USA) and does have a large number of appreciative fans. I would therefore contest that he is therefore just about notable enough for an article. A1octopus 12:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment Notability is objective, and not subjective. If this guy is so famous, where are the reliable sources that permit a Wikipedia article?  It's not just WP:Music this guy flunks, it's WP:BIO and WP:N more generally. -- THF 12:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


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