Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Penney (3rd nomination)


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The result was delete. If someone wants to create a redirect if one of the films is kept, be my guest. SoWhy 15:09, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Mark Penney
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Does not seem to meet WP:NBIO notability. Found little to no third party references about the person. Neither the English or the French Wikipedia articles listed any references. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 22:49, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Comment: Article seem to be recreated on August 22, 2015, following the deletion vote at Articles for deletion/Mark Penney on Janunary 14, 2006 --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 22:53, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 22:50, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

AFD for film maker: AFD of his films:
 * Articles for deletion/Mark Penney (3rd nomination)
 * Articles for deletion/Joan (film)
 * Articles for deletion/Life (2007 film)
 * Articles for deletion/The Right Way (2004 film)

--Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 22:39, 15 August 2018 (UTC)


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Delete Keep I'd like to vote otherwise, since he has produced a body of work that has screened at many international film festivals, but independent media coverage seems to be entirely lacking. Changed opinion as per E.M.Gregory below. With at least one review in a national newspaper (The National Post), I suspect there are additional reviews that can be found. Curiocurio (talk) 15:35, 10 August 2018 (UTC) *Keep WP:HEY I added a pair of reviews innational papers. Note also that he co-wrote Coldwater (film) (it had not been on his page), and his early film The Right Way (2004 film) was the professional debut of Keir Gilchrist and got full-length reviews in Canada's two leading national daily newspapers. There is enough here to meet WP:CREATIVE.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:51, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. We would expect more reliable media coverage since this was a recreation. GenuineArt (talk) 15:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Wow, I didn't think we had any more unsourced BLPs after all these years. I realize that this 2005 piece is grandfathered under the old rules, but if people can't be arsed to add a single source in 13 years, I reckon we're well in the realm of non-notability under our GNG. Carrite (talk) 15:44, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Curiocurio, I have added film reviews, and a profile in a local paper, feel free to add material about film festival screenings.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:37, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:59, 17 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete – It was deleted 10 years ago in the 1st nomination and there was no reason for it to be kept in the 2nd nomination if the only new films he created aren't notable and are currently nominated for deletion. <b style="color:#3399FF">Redditaddict</b><b style="color:#339900">6</b><b style="color:#3399FF">9</b> 10:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * so, there are 2 filmmakers named Mark Penney, about the same age, both Canadian. and this one did not create Coldwater (film).E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, or possibly redirect, this bio to the only film of some significance Penny created, The Right Way (2004 film).E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC)


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