Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Sheldon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  08:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Mark Sheldon

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Mayor of a small town (less than 13,000 inhabitants) with no trace of significant press coverage - fails WP:NPOL and GNG. Ingratis (talk) 20:54, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Ingratis (talk) 20:54, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Ingratis (talk) 20:54, 4 July 2020 (UTC)



& fellow Wiki family: Panama City Beach hosts 17 million+ visitors each season - thats more than double the entire population of New York City.

stated position, regarding Mark Sheldon's position of Mayor;  states: "Mayor of a small town (less than 13,000 inhabitants) with no trace of significant press coverage" - yet the article cited for Mark Sheldon was from a media source with whom has a verified + published wikipedia page: WJHG-TV and Panama City Beach. So might I ask - how is this not significant press?

In my opinion, it is not editors jurisdiction to decide what is and isn't "significant press". That is not providing a service to this community, it's creating bias, to the editors preferred publications/media.

From a fiscal standpoint, the economic impact of Panama City Beach tourism is over $2 billion annually. Tourism is the #1 revenue generator for the state of Florida. Thus, the Mayor, the beach town, the fiscal output of said town, all play significant role & warrant Wiki consideration in publication. --Guitarhistory (talk) 04:18, 5 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment - no disrespect intended to Panama City Beach or the mayor - I have no personal axe to grind with either of them. I based the nomination on WP:NPOL and WP:POLOUTCOMES. Notability of mayors (local politicians) comes from the size of the place they're mayor of and also on the existence of "significant press coverage" (the wording is Wikipedia's, not my own). PCB has a small population and as far as I could see, Mark Sheldon has only local press coverage. Ingratis (talk) 12:04, 5 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Mayors of smaller municipalities are routine (every town has a mayor) and rarely notable, and need more than local press to establish lasting notability on Wikipedia. SportingFlyer  T · C  04:34, 5 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:NPOL, as he does not hold at least a state-level position, and has not had wider (i.e. national-level) press coverage. Jmertel23 (talk) 12:25, 5 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. The Mayor, while a well accomplished person, has not yet met the criteria of WP:NPOL.--Mpen320 (talk) 15:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment -    I can understand your position a bit clearer. Thank you for that and for taking the time to review, respond and provide the above references regarding: WP:NPOL.  I too, have no axe to grind.  I value your contributions, past & present.


 * Comment - cont. Having visited Bay County FL last month (coming from the North East) - I was completely leveled by their community. A few years back, Hurricane Michael ravaged their county.  Pure devastation (feel free to review the NPR article below). As I drove the back country roads, there were still entire families living under trees & make-shift sheets, as their homes were wiped away. Hundreds of families.  Feral animals running the roads starving (I have a rescued dog in my lap as I type this message). There are many places in this country, living a great struggle.  My aspiration for creating this article comes from a good place & perhaps if small individuals/communities had a voice, change & progress could be made for their community? Food for thought. --Guitarhistory (talk) 16:24, 5 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Publish- According to Wikipedia WP:NPOL standards - Politicians and judges - The following are presumed to be notable: Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office. A province "is almost always an administrative division within a country or state".  Panama City Beach town counsil, is quite literally, an administrative division; the tourism within this community, generates the top revenue for Bay County, Florida.  I believe there is a case to be made here --Guitarhistory (talk) 16:42, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Province in that context clearly means a first-level sub-national government, since some countries (Australia, Mexico) have states as a first-level sub-national government and others (Canada, South Africa) have provinces. There's no technicality. SportingFlyer  T · C  18:19, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * - I respect your support for the town. Most of the content you're suggesting would be well placed at the article on Panama City Beach itself, if not already included. Ingratis (talk) 13:04, 6 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Non notable. --Devokewater (talk) 23:38, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete This is the worst article on a local mayor I have ever seen. The mayor of a place this dinky is never going to be notable, and especially not when half the article is a quote from his acceptance speech. Saratoga Springs, Utah has more people, and the only reason we have an article on one of the mayors of that place is because she went on to become a member of the US house and a nationaly syndicated broadcast news jouranlist. OK, someone is going to point out that in 2010 when I created the article on Mrs. Love (Mia Love) she was still only mayor and had not even announced her run for congress. True, but that was back when we accepted more random first inclusions, and were less quick to have problems with articles. If the top claim to fame of Mrs. Love was being the first female African-American (as in the first of this intersection) mayor in the state of Utah, I think the article would be deleted today.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, Mayor of smaller cities is not notable, fails WP:NPOL, Alex-h (talk) 14:02, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NPOL. It's fairly strong consensus and based on AfD outcomes, mayors of cities much smaller than 80,000 or so (the debate is still on for the exact figure) are just not notable, absent something unusual. Panama_City_Beach,_Florida is a city of about 12,500 people, which is much below whatever is the exact consensus. Bearian (talk) 00:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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