Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Swanner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Article's subject is found to be in violation of WP:BLP and not notable. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 01:52, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Mark Swanner

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 * This page was tagged for speedy delete as "attack page", but this page has stood since 01:31, 14 April 2007‎. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:26, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete or possibly redirect to Manadel al-Jamadi per WP:ONEEVENT. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:29, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete It's a G10 speedy delete intended only to disparage a living person by association. The talk page is a BLP violation.  Length of time is not a G10 requirement.  Fails WP:BLP1E. WP:BLPCRIME, WP:BLPNAME and WP:PSEUDO --DHeyward (talk) 16:21, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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 * There are references in the article. What happens if the article tells the truth? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:24, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * What truth beyond false-light libel? Let's say we had an article with Anthony Appleyard, a school teacher, lives alone in a neighborhood where children were molested by one or more persons.  One of the children lived next to Appleyard.  A neighbor reported seeing the child enter Appleyard's home on a day a molestation was reported but other neighbors disputed those accounts.  One of possibly many other child molesters, and an acquaintance Appleyard knew from PTA meetings, was charged and convicted of aggravated child sexual assault.  Appleyard said he didn't molest the child next door and said he was asleep when the neighbor said the child visited.  No one was able to corroborate the sleeping alibi.  Appleyard works for the local school district. He has not been charged with a crime.  See what I did there?  I created an entirely negative article which would be trivial to source given very simple facts about employments and a criminal act Anthony Appleseed has not been charged with, let alone convicted.  How long would you like an article like that around simply because every statement is true and sourced?  It's not acceptable and it's why we prohibit attack pages and have a BLP policy.  This person is not notable enough to retain only false light association to a crime without any other information about him.  Attack page, BLP1E and NN says this biography article needs to go.  --DHeyward (talk) 05:45, 22 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Redirect per WP:BLP1E, while the death of Manadel al-Jamadi has received persistent coverage in both news and books, the individual who is alleged to cause the death have only received coverage in reliable sources only in connect to the death of the aforementioned individual. Therefore, the individual is not as notable as the event, and the article should redirect to the death. Furthermore Manadel al-Jamadi has not received significant coverage beyond their death; therefore the article Manadel al-Jamadi should be moved to Death of Manadel al-Jamadi. The event passes notability requirements per WP:EVENT, but neither individual has received in-depth coverage outside of the event.
 * That being said, here are major BLP issues as the subject of this AfD is accused, and not convicted, and the article should not disparage the individual or presume guilt.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.