Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark of Cain (novel)


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The result was keep. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  19:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Mark of Cain (novel)

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Declined PROD, courtesy ping. Fails WP:NBOOK due to lack of major reviews, awards or other significant coverage in independent, reliable sources.  SITH   (talk)   13:53, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 14:22, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 14:22, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. It was Israel's "leading paperback for five weeks, and spent a total of 19 weeks on the list" (Jerusalem Post). --Michig (talk) 14:56, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Along with the coverage mentioned by Michig, the book has been called the "fastest selling book in Israeli history" by the Federation of American Scientists and garnered attention from Publishers Weekly . In 1998, the book was on the Jerusalem Post bestseller list.  Given that the book was published in 1996/1998, there are also likely sources of offline reviews. MarkZusab (talk) 22:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The book is also discussed in Modern Hebrew Literature, Issues 16-21 . MarkZusab (talk) 23:19, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment, being a bestseller ticks one box in WP:NBOOK, and one would expect reviews (a second tick:)), but i have been unable to find any english language ones thru a gsearch, hopefully a hebrew speaking editor can list some, until then ..... Coolabahapple (talk) 02:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:36, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:HEY I added a couple of sources directly to the page. I only found one review in English (JPost).  Both JPost and Haaretz seem more interested in this book as part of Oren's successful career as a writer of thrillers who made a comfortable living by regularly producing thrillers that he published himself - thus earning enough to be a writer.   Unless more attention on the book (reviews, literary analysis in later years) is found, it might make more sense to integrate this to Ram Oren, not a particularly long article at present, it is thin and poorly sourced.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:22, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge To author, Ram Oren.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:03, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep: this book straightforwardly meets WP:NBOOK because it has been the subject of two non-trivial reviews. I have cited them clearly in Mark of Cain (novel). Alarichall (talk) 00:31, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


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