Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Market Wrap


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There has been strong discussion but only two formal votes. Relisting did not produce clearer consensus, and there has been no further discussion over the last week making relisting a likely pointless exercise. (non-admin closure) MaxnaCarter (talk) 02:05, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Market Wrap

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Despite the show's longevity, I could find no sources about the show. All hits on ProQuest were variants of "X to appear on Market Wrap", superficial name-drops in articles about the hosts, or reports on viewership numbers, none of which constitutes WP:SIGCOV. It also doesn't even have an IMDb page, which is very telling. This seems to be a case akin to Articles for deletion/Evans, Novak, Hunt & Shields where the nature of the show means it's unlikely to garner any media attention, regardless of how long it aired. Including the Asia and Europe spinoffs for similar reasons. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Note that a total of three articles are nominated for deletion herein. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 13:15, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Asia,  and Europe. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - I agree that we need to find more references for these, and other simialr, articles but there's no need to delete lots of CNBC show articles, all of which are valid and notable articles.Rillington (talk) 14:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "It's notable and valid" is not an argument to keep. Where are the sources? Prove that any exist. I got a bunch of false positives for a similarly named show but none for this one whatsoever. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per nom.  ~XyNq tc 13:44, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Two mentions of it being CNBCs most popular show.
 * Peter Truell. The New York Times. February 17, 1997. In regards to CNBC: The channel's most popular show, Market Wrap, which is on from 4 P.M. to 5 P.M. on weekdays, has about a quarter-million viewers at any one time.
 * RE:CNBC - Marc Gunther. Fortune Magazine May 24, 1999. Today a typical spot on Market Wrap, the network's top-rated show, sells for $4,000 to $5,000, and a handful of advertisers pay nearly twice that much. (The fact that ratings have doubled hasn't hurt.)
 * Found other passing mentions or small coverage, but more searching is needed. I do think the Asia/Europe versions should be merged into the main Market Wrap, since they both were originally based on it. A topic to discuss if we do end up keeping this. Deleting this seems unnecessary as Closing Bell seems to be a natural successor for a merge as they kept Mathisen and Bartiromo as the host and brought Griffeth back in later. WikiVirusC (talk) 14:31, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If there's so little to say about the show itself other than "it's popular", then maybe it should be merged/redirected to CNBC. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:36, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Preferred merge target for me would be Closing Bell, for a redirect List of programs broadcast by CNBC. I don't feel the international versions have enough warrant to have entire content merged to Closing Bell, but if Market Wrap is kept, then it can take it. If all three are to go, then Market Wrap into Closing Bell. Excluding tables, the main article is pretty much a stub which can easily merge without being undue. International table could be put into short prose summary. A longer merge discussion would of been preferable but since we are in a deletion discussion, my vote will probably be Keep/Merge/Merge or Merge/Del/Del. WikiVirusC (talk) 16:00, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.