Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Markham-Stouffville Hospital

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was ambiguous.

The final tally is 15 delete (fvw voted twice, I assume accidentally) to 9 keep (two unsigned votes were by extremely new users and are discounted). Failing to reach a clear consensus to delete, the article defaults to keep. I am, however, going to tag this for clean-up. If, after a reasonable period, this article has not been improved, I think it would be appropriate to renominate it. Rossami (talk) 06:47, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Markham-Stouffville Hospital
The page consists of a list of the departments of just another hospital. No potential to become encyclopedic. --Paul 08:23, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Hospital vanity. utcursch 12:15, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. All public institutions such as schools and hospitals are notable and encyclopedic. Bad content is not an excuse to delete articles, but an opportunity to improve article content.--Centauri 13:02, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, doesn't establish notability. --fvw *  14:34, 2004 Dec 29 (UTC)
 * Keep --Is Mise le Méas, Irishpunktom 14:58, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, just another hospital. Unless someone can show that it is noteworthy/encyclopedic in any way. Rje 16:17, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, major hospitals are enyclopedic. - SimonP 17:21, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Is it a major hospital, thought? What are the standards that make a hospital major?  Delete.  hfool 19:25, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * An (admittedly cursory) search suggests to me that the while Markham-Stouffville Hospital is a reasonably substantial institution (215 beds) it's not particularly large compared to other hospitals in the Toronto area, and doesn't have a major research institute or anything of that ilk to distinguish it. (I'm rather surprised to note that Toronto General Hospital doesn't have a Wikipedia entry, actually.) Delete, unless someone knows of some noteworthy research or physicians, or events of historical significance. --TenOfAllTrades 21:09, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, seems like an ad, no evidence of notability established by the text. Wyss 21:15, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: A notable hospital is notable. Otherwise, it's a big building with doctors and patients in it, as they said in "Airplane!"  Geogre 22:04, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep Spinboy 22:20, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can kind of understand the rationale behind keeping schools. But hospitals? Xezbeth  22:24, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Not understanding why something should be kept isn't listed as a criteria for deletion. Dr Zen 05:20, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * No, but non-notability is. Xezbeth  08:06, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)
 * I can't find that in the deletion policy. Would you mind helping me out with a quote, so that I can adjust my vote accordingly if necessary?Dr Zen 23:19, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article makes no claim of notability. The hospital's own site doesn't, on its face, support a claim of notability, beyond receiving the highest level of accreditation and being the first to receive a quality award. --Chris vLS 22:32, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mikkalai 23:39, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Megan1967 01:42, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete --fvw *  02:17, 2004 Dec 30 (UTC)
 * Delete - okay, it's a hospital and it has departments. You need to do better than that. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 04:30, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. It claims it is notable in its title. Can I ask the admin who clears this up to disregard votes that do not give reasons according to the deletion policy?Dr Zen 05:20, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. A notable hospital is notable.  GRider\talk 18:21, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Notable hospitals are notable, but no evidence of notability is presented for this particular hospital. Indrian 23:54, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep -Ld | talk 04:56, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. Jayjg  |  (Talk)  04:31, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep I feel that it could use expanstion, but information on what departments / services are avaliable is of interest to potential patients / health care workers
 * Keep Useful info for potential patients.
 * Delete...and why would you look up a hospital on Wikipedia if you are a potential patient? Adam Bishop 22:03, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Samaritan 22:54, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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