Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Markus Schirmer


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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 07:03, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Markus Schirmer

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I tried to salvage this article, but the more I checked for sources, the more I realized that the subject's notability consists almost entirely of press releases, trivial mentions and mini biographies based on this six year old article. It looks like the article was originally based on the subject's PR biography and some unsourced content. Over the years, mirrors sites have picked up and repeated the Wikipedia article almost verbatim. Fails WP:MUSICBIO. - MrX 00:16, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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 * Comment – Based on the nominator's comments above, the subject's career events from his article as copyright violation seems unjustified. Subsequently nominating the article, now devoid of many noteworthy elements, for deletion seems pointy. Searching for reliable sources would have been more constructive. I suggest to restore the article to  for a more informed discussion. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:49, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The deletion nomination is valid with or without the content that was removed. Also, as I stated in the nomination, "I checked for sources". Some of the content that I removed was unsourced, resume-like detail and some was copy-pasted paragraphs from the subject's PR bio. They were removed for different reasons, which I attempted to explain in the edit summary. You're free to restore any of the article content if you can find reliable sources (per WP:BLP) and are willing to rewrite some of it to remove the copyright violations (per WP:COPYVIO).- MrX 03:07, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - several entries in the German National Library and professor, clearly to be improved, not deleted --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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 * Note to closing administrator: Creator of the article has been informed of ways to improve his article via AFC if it were to get deleted. If this were to be the result, please consider USERFYing the article. Thank you. ~ | twsx | talkcont | ~ 08:35, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep – Has an extensive discography of classical works; won significant prizes; coverage in reliable sources; professorial academic position; extensive concert tours; founder of musical project; juror in piano competitions. All these outweigh the article's creator's deplorable tendency for promotional writing. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:27, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep He's had an album reviewed by Gramophone magazine (two Mozart concertos in May 2013; behind a paywall but you'll just have to trust me), which is a pretty good indication that he's not a complete nobody. We accept worse. --Mkativerata (talk) 11:29, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
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