Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marlborough Street (Dublin)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. —  Aitias  // discussion 18:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Marlborough Street (Dublin)

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Non-notable street, named after an English boy. Thanks Balloholic (talk) 02:19, 22 December 2008 (UTC) 
 * Keep - The nationality of the name of a topic has nothing to do with inclusion standards in Wikipedia. Many books in a book g-search show extensive history on this street (it appears to have been a center in the Irish War of Independence) and is the location of many notable places including St Mary's Pro-Cathedral.  Nominating a Dublin city centre street article within 6 days of its creation is of no useful service to this project. --Oakshade (talk) 06:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Six days is sufficient time for an article to state itself why it has a right to exist. If you think this is the case then sort it out. I didn't swoop down from the heavens on this article as you very well know, Oakshade. This is a systematic clearing out of substandard articles that don't assert their notability. You're perfectly welcome to fight me but the best way to do this would be to add relevant and notable info to the article. If you don't have time for this now gather the info in your userspace and create an article over time then release it to the general public when it's ready. --Balloholic (talk) 15:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 07:50, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 07:50, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:10, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as copyvio from here. TerriersFan (talk) 00:49, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Your opinion as a respected administrator is valid and I believe you represent the true neutrality of this discussion. --Balloholic (talk) 01:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I rewrote it to remove the copyvio, and added some information: it is the location of the Dublin Pro-Cathedral, which serves as the Cathedral for the Established Church of Ireland. It's clearly a major street. However, it would certainly be wise to check some of these other articles and see if they come from the same source; as they can all be readily rewritten, this will be preferred to deleting the copyvio. I will check some of them tomorrow. DGG (talk) 01:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Having a cathedral does not make it a major street. It is not as if it is the only cathedral in ireland! Even so less people are bothering with religion in Ireland nowadays so its not as massive as its stereotyped to be. If you haven't been there it could otherwise be a complete tip. There is no clarity at all on it being a notable street. To say it is definitely major is POV. --Balloholic (talk) 01:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I am quite prepared to defend the street on which a cathedral is built in any city as being a notable street. If it wasn't one before the cathedral was located there, it has become one in consequence of that. I fail to see how the state of religion in Ireland is relevant, any more so than the nationality of the Duke. Marlborough was indeed once a boy before he won his first major victories 1n 1702 and became a Duke in consequence of them, but I don't see what that has to do with the importance or lack of importance of a street named after him--as the most famous of English generals, there were many such streets, some important, some not. Giving this as a deletion reason does seem rather POINTy.
 * However, the copyvio was a serious concern. Fortunately for these articles, the ed. who introduced this particular article does not seem to have previously worked on this general subject, but almost entirely on Irish athletes. I have warned him about copyvio & will follow up with him about that. DGG (talk) 02:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - there is now enough to establish notability. TerriersFan (talk) 04:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - notoriety is established Jmbranum (talk) 06:41, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - as per DGG Snappy (talk) 08:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - WP:POINTY nom, excellent defense by DGG. Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 09:18, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


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