Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marline Barberena


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The result was no consensus. NPASR (non-admin closure) Lourdes  01:35, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Marline Barberena

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Barberena is totally not notable. She was Miss Nicaragua, but this is not enough of a notable listing to make someone notable and nothing else about her comes even close to making her notable. John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:31, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Latin America-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:27, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:27, 20 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep: as this is a national winner of a pageant that feeds into Miss Universe. The consensus is still developing, but while a lot of the smaller international pageants may not have national winners being notable, this is the biggest game out there.  Montanabw (talk) 05:05, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. North America1000 14:25, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * If found to not be independently notable, redirect to Miss Nicaragua as a valid search term, and the subject is mentioned there. North America1000 14:25, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:38, 2 September 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist -- Dane 2007  talk 02:27, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Sources here.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:57, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Dane 2007  talk 02:27, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:54, 14 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect: Come on people. She is not "independently" notable and everyone on this page knows this or will directly. She won one title and that is why we have policy about this. It is not just about the fact that there are "sources". The only way we can justify keeping a one time national winner of one event is to ignore all the rules. The purpose of that "rule" is so there are not undue restrictions, that hamper improvements to Wikipedia, and not to allow articles that will very likely forever be a stub biography article, about a person that won one title. This does not improve Wikipedia. Note: If we do consider "source" There are three references listed. #1)- Please look at first one used in the article. I used a translator but the title appears to be Miss Nicaragua statement and concerns "Miss Nastassja Bolivar" and mentions "Mrs. Olga Isabel Cifuentes" and "Miss Nicaragua 2014", with nothing I could find about the subject. #2)- The second reference is a primary source of "Beauty Pageant News", and #3)- The third is a Spanish Wikipedia entry that is not a reference. This means there is one primary source related to the one event. This discussion is not a vote count but closure is to be based on the merits of the discussion, reasoning, and WP:Policies and guidelines. In light of this evidence this is clearly a redirect unless someone can offer more substantial reasoning. Otr500 (talk) 13:30, 17 September 2016 (UTC)


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