Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marlon Moraes


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The result was   keep -- Y not? 13:50, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Marlon Moraes

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MMA fighter with no significant coverage (only routine sports coverage) and no top tier fights (fails WP:NMMA). Jakejr (talk) 14:15, 20 June 2013 (UTC)


 * KeepTop Ranked MMA Fighter who is on the verge of contending for a MMA World Championship for World Series of Fighting on the NBC Sports Network. JMichael22 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:52, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Being on the verge of contending for a championship that doesn't show notability (please see WP:NMMA and WP:MMATIER) certainly doesn't show notability. Jakejr (talk) 23:03, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
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 *  Weak Keep - While he doesn't pass WP:NMMA, he is ranked in the top 10 among his weight class by Sherdog. With some better sourcing, it should pass WP:GNG. Luchuslu (talk) 19:32, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * After looking over the seven sources listed a couple more times, I feel comfortable enough with their significance to change my vote to a hard keep based on WP:GNG.
 * Also added two new significant sources just for good measure. Luchuslu (talk) 19:34, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Userfy Does not currently pass WP:GNG or WP:NMMA. Sherdog rankings are not a notability criteria and "with some better sourcing, it should pass WP:GNG" is meaningless.  The question is showing that significant coverage.  This appears to be a case of WP:TOOSOON.Mdtemp (talk) 16:14, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * How could Sherdog rankings not be considered toward notability when the heiarchy of organizations for WP:MMATIER was based entirely on the number of fighters ranked in the top ten of their weight class in each organization? Luchuslu (talk) 19:13, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The rankings used to determine organizational notability were based on a poll of MMA writers from a variety of magazines and websites, not from a single website. The point being made in the notability discussions for both fighters and organizations was that a fighter couldn't be notable if he didn't fight at the highest level.  This is a good case in point--Moraes has no fights against anyone ranked in the top 10 or for any top tier organization. Papaursa (talk) 04:12, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * But fighters that aren't at fighting at the highest level (i.e. "top-tier organizations in WP:MMATIER) can still pass on WP:GNG grounds. Moraes has been the focus of significant coverage in MMA Junkie (USA Today's MMA wing) and MMA Fighting, plus he's received additional coverage as a top-ten ranked fighter by Sherdog. Some of his other sources are trivial, but my opinion based on WP:GNG is that he warrants a stand-alone article. Luchuslu (talk) 14:21, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * FYI its' not just Sherdog's rankings. He also ranks in the top ten on ESPN's Bantamweight ranks. Luchuslu (talk)
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