Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marmo (musician)


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 19:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Marmo (musician)

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non-notable coatrack of an article - hasn't charted, hasn't gotten in depth coverage and appears to be mostly covered by blackhat SEO and pay for publishing sites. BEACHIDICAE🌊 15:50, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:06, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:06, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The artist has been featured on New York Billboards and featured on multiple big magazines. Also, his song 'Fed Up' is known. I don't get where you researched the information? Wikipedia Rules clearly says if the artist have fame outside the digital form, it is considered as eligible for Wikipedia. This artist is also signed to Universal Music Group as per i researched. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D3FAULTX8 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Really? What source says that Marmo is signed to UMG? BEACHIDICAE🌊  16:40, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, He co-produced GionnyScandal 's album 'EMO' which released on Universal which also got him to UMG. If you need proofs, you can use these links 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUIYNrG3Hqs [See Description - Author: Stefano Galliotta] 2. https://genius.com/Gionnyscandal-imperfetta-lyrics#song-info [Check written by (Credits) section] — Preceding unsigned comment added by D3FAULTX8 (talk c contribs) 17:01, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah neither of those are reliable sources, nor do they even insinuate that Marmo is signed to UMG. BEACHIDICAE🌊  17:03, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Praxidicae, I kindly request you to know more about Major record label's contract and signing procedures. When someone is releasing a single on UMG, even the collaborators has to sign as a songwriter or artist contract. They have different contracts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D3FAULTX8 (talk • contribs) 17:07, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

• Therefore, the artist meets criteria under Notability (music) (Criteria for musicians and ensembles): 1,2, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12 — Preceding unsigned comment added by D3FAULTX8 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Could you stop bludgeoning the discussion for a hot second and learn to WP:SIGN your posts and then read the criteria you're citing? Because you're really only serving to make a mess here while also proving my point. BEACHIDICAE🌊  17:15, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

• Hi, no offence, but clearly I request you to take a look the music notability criteria as I know the artist clearly falls under many of the criteria . Let me know, thanks D3FAULTX8 (talk) 17:17, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: No coverage I could find in my search that would contribute to notability. Fails WP:BIO.  Java Hurricane  07:21, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

What about the Notability (music)? D3FAULTX8 (talk) 08:21, 9 June 2021 (UTC)


 * That is covered under the failure of WP:BIO. Also, please declare whatever relation you have with the subject of the article.  Java Hurricane  08:53, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

• Hi User:JavaHurricane, I found this artist online through his hit song "Fed Up"...I followed him on socials and decided to write a page after I found out that he was featured on NY Times Square Billboards. And I searched deep the articles about him and of the content I wrote on the page. In order for me to verify that he was signed to UMG, I checked on YouTube (Topic channels provide info on which label distributed the track) and I also checked Genuis (largest lyric platform) and also found the info that he co-produced GionnyScandal's Emo album. He has also several successful releases. How come he fails WP:BIO when the artist: 1. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country. 2. Has releases on Major labels. 3. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, TV Show: Lo Zoo di 105 4. Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. 5. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network. 6. Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition. 7. Has had a work used as the basis for a later composition by a songwriter, composer or lyricist who meets the above criteria.

I would like to request you to please re-check again. Thank you so much! D3FAULTX8 (talk) 11:15, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Frankly speaking, none of your arguments hold any water. All 7 of your points are incorrect per Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Additionally, please be very truthful in describing your relationship with the subject. Undisclosed paid editing is absolutely not allowed on Wikipedia, and it is also a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. Undisclosed paid editors are indefinitely blocked. Please, therefore, be truthful. Thanks.  Java Hurricane  01:37, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * My own assessment of the sources agrees with Praxidicae's. There are also plenty of great contradictions in the article: Is he an independent artist, or is he signed to UMG, etc? Notability aside, none of the claims in the article are particularly verifiable. If someone were to go through and strip out all of the naff sources, and everything that fails verification (and I am sorely tempted), I don't think we'd have an article at all. Delete, with a reminder to the article creator that WP:BLUDGEONING is not behaviour representative of a collaborative attitude. -- a they/them &#124; argue &#124; contribs 12:24, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The editor who is making the keep arguments seems to be confusing an artist signing an agreement to use Universal Music Group's client distribution services--which is available to anyone--with being a signed artist to one of their many labels. They are not the same thing. 3/4 of all music today is made available through the small handful of major music groups distribution outlets, of which UMG is one. What is lacking here is a source that verifies this artist is a signed recording artist with UMG. ShelbyMarion (talk) 23:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete — This gave me headache, WP:MUSICBIO is clearly not met. @, if you can learn how to WP:INDENT whilst you at it, it would be a great idea. Celestina007 (talk) 20:30, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence in reliable sources that he meets NMusic, or GNG. Star   Mississippi  16:32, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.4meter4 (talk) 20:02, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


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