Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marques de Caceres


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. J04n(talk page) 22:26, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Marques de Caceres

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No indications of notability for this particular winery. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:47, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as in 2004, Wine Enthusiast called this the number one producer of Rioja sold in the United States. That's a claim of notability, and reliable sources are available.  Improve through normal editing rather than deleting. Cullen328 (talk) 22:25, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Can you provide a citation to verify this fact? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:35, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wine-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:33, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
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 * Reply Here's a more lengthy quote from Wine Enthusiast: "Marques de Caceres is the number one brand of Rioja in the United States. Export Sales Manager Frank- Olivier Telling says the winery sent approximately 200000 cases to the US last year, of a total production that's just under 1 million" and here's the Google search . Cullen328 (talk) 14:42, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:26, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep as Cullen says, they are a well known if not especially prestigious Rioja house. Decanter lists about 15 of their wines, and has ratings for six of them. http://www.decanter.com/wine/finder/search.php?wineName=Marques de Caceres&quickSearch=Go&offset=0 . On the other hand it is a bloody awful article and I for one aren't going to put any effort into it. Greglocock (talk) 06:07, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sources talk of this winery as well-known in the wine world.  Lebel Jacques (talk) 18:59, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment What sources would those be? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:13, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Click the Google news archive search at the top of the AFD. See how easy it is to find sources.  Chicago Tribune Oct 26, 1983, says "MARQUES de Caceres, one of the best examples of the new wave in wineries".  Most of the article is hidden behind a paywall, but clearly they give praise to them, making it notable coverage.   D r e a m Focus  01:04, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep&mdash;appears to be reasonably prominent. I added a pair of cites for notability.&mdash;RJH (talk) 20:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.